19 February 2012, 20:48
19 February 2012, 21:03
That's exactly why we're meeting in Bristol. It's the first step towards building a team.
Great find NR.
Great find NR.
19 February 2012, 22:06
lone wolfs just have to adopt a different approach. move and do everything at night unless in a secure hidden location. adopt the sniper type role when moving about. like the infamous raul mote
if he can do it so can you.
if he can do it so can you.
19 February 2012, 22:11
(19 February 2012, 22:06)mikebratcher69 Wrote: [ -> ]lone wolfs just have to adopt a different approach. move and do everything at night unless in a secure hidden location. adopt the sniper type role when moving about. like the infamous raul mote
if he can do it so can you.
Snipers still work in pairs, and Mote didn't last long.
Not sure I'm keen on the lone wolf idea.
19 February 2012, 22:28
There used to be some good further reading on the concept of Forcemen Survivalists, they were published in the American Survival Guide, basically it explained that in the short term immediately after TSHTF a forcemen survivalist could get by on his own quite nicely, but as time went by and long term fatigue and a need to settle down most forcemen accept a need to team up with others.
If you ignore total losers like Mote and look at more represtative example like Barry Prudham ex Special forces who went off the rails he lasted on his own for some long weeks before the cops brought in Eddie Mcgee and some other SAS types to track him down. Once Prudham was faced with multiple opponants of similar skill to him he was basically buggered, He died on Norton High Street about 50 ft away from me, drove his car into the wall of the local chippy.
If you ignore total losers like Mote and look at more represtative example like Barry Prudham ex Special forces who went off the rails he lasted on his own for some long weeks before the cops brought in Eddie Mcgee and some other SAS types to track him down. Once Prudham was faced with multiple opponants of similar skill to him he was basically buggered, He died on Norton High Street about 50 ft away from me, drove his car into the wall of the local chippy.
19 February 2012, 22:37
(19 February 2012, 22:28)NorthernRaider Wrote: [ -> ], He died on Norton High Street about 50 ft away from me, drove his car into the wall of the local chippy.
Maybe he would have lived longer if he had phoned for a take away?
19 February 2012, 22:38
Try again he crashed his car on Norton High St about 50 ft away from me, he died near Malton when cornered and shot himself in the head
19 February 2012, 23:13
well he probably gave up on the take away... they do take ages to deliver.
Each to his own on the subject of lone wolves, I think a skilled prepper/survivalist can get by on his/her own enphasis on skilled.
Yes groups are good for some things but so are lone wolves. Like N.R. said when you come accross people of a similar calibre to yourself, your up sh*t creek no matter how many of you there are, its usually first to pull the trigger wins...
Safety in numbers is one way, but individuals can also be ignored or overlooked where a big group may not.
Each to his own on the subject of lone wolves, I think a skilled prepper/survivalist can get by on his/her own enphasis on skilled.
Yes groups are good for some things but so are lone wolves. Like N.R. said when you come accross people of a similar calibre to yourself, your up sh*t creek no matter how many of you there are, its usually first to pull the trigger wins...
Safety in numbers is one way, but individuals can also be ignored or overlooked where a big group may not.
19 February 2012, 23:15
Safety in numbers cooperating in mutual support is good, any form of cooperative socialism will be fatal.
19 February 2012, 23:25
Its hard when putting your trust in a group of individuals.
In the army as N.R. knows it was easy to trust everybody to do their job and do it well because you were all trained together and you knew each other could and would do the job needed. People "say one thing" but under pressure do another. Having a survival prepping group to rely on during shtf would indeed be a bonus and much needed support. People "say their willing to do anything to survive" but are they?
Thats one thing you dont need to find out post shtf.
People tend to blag a lot, how'd you tell if your groups got an unreliable blagger in it?
You just need to look at the way criminal types dob each other in if they get caught, now I'm not comparing us to crims BUT just because people talk the talk doesnt mean they walk the walk.
In the army as N.R. knows it was easy to trust everybody to do their job and do it well because you were all trained together and you knew each other could and would do the job needed. People "say one thing" but under pressure do another. Having a survival prepping group to rely on during shtf would indeed be a bonus and much needed support. People "say their willing to do anything to survive" but are they?
Thats one thing you dont need to find out post shtf.
People tend to blag a lot, how'd you tell if your groups got an unreliable blagger in it?
You just need to look at the way criminal types dob each other in if they get caught, now I'm not comparing us to crims BUT just because people talk the talk doesnt mean they walk the walk.