Attached is the Recommended equipment for SUK Radio Communications
This is as per the discussions we have been having over the last few months.
The document is in Latest Word format.
I would have liked it to be in Pdf format but I am unable to create this for some reason.
Could Modorator reformat it into Pdf Please?
The document recompiles much that has already been discussed.
A big thanks to Paul for his support and contribution to the writing of this document, and to all who have contributed to the discussion ( not least NR).
We hope thatthis will act as a reference document to assist SUK preppers in making valid equipment choices.
Thanks to everyone for their efforts, hopefully the end results will be worthwhile, equally i hope that perhaps this format /system is adopted by other preppers as well as our community.
LS, just spotted this. SUPERB. Many thanks.
More to add to my ever growing shopping list. I've got the UV-5R and a few PMRs. Going to get the cheapo CB, and hopefully the NVIS gear also. I'm hoping to have everything by Christmas.
Nice very professional high quality piece of solid research guys, I'm now hoping for a similar guide for a simple PV system !!
(4 September 2012, 16:00)00111001 Wrote: [ -> ]LS, just spotted this. SUPERB. Many thanks.
More to add to my ever growing shopping list. I've got the UV-5R and a few PMRs. Going to get the cheapo CB, and hopefully the NVIS gear also. I'm hoping to have everything by Christmas.
Hi 00111001
Glad you found the information useful.
Re CB These look interesting Legally compliant FM units
1. NR purchased one of these and seems satisfied with it...and he's rather hard to please, so that's a good recommendation:-)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intek-H-520-pl...35b56a231a
2. I've also looked at this one as a hand portable unit. Its useful having the low power transmit option for close in work and reduced battery consumption:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INTEK-H-512-Pl...19d4940c16
3. As a cheap mobile set-up I've recently installed one of these. its excelelent value for money, small, robust and so far has performed beyond expectations.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAAS-KCB-8040-...46002f87e3
(5 September 2012, 11:17)Lightspeed Wrote: [ -> ]3. As a cheap mobile set-up I've recently installed one of these. its excelelent value for money, small, robust and so far has performed beyond expectations.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAAS-KCB-8040-...46002f87e3
Thanks LS!
Our MSG have decided to use PMR's and UV3/5R's for short range (due to the added protection of the CTCSS and DCS codes) and CB for the short to mid range stuff. Then hopefully I'll have the NVIS gear in the next 3 months for the longer range comms.
That CB looks very good for the money
(5 September 2012, 12:36)00111001 Wrote: [ -> ] (5 September 2012, 11:17)Lightspeed Wrote: [ -> ]3. As a cheap mobile set-up I've recently installed one of these. its excelelent value for money, small, robust and so far has performed beyond expectations.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAAS-KCB-8040-...46002f87e3
Thanks LS!
Our MSG have decided to use PMR's and UV3/5R's for short range (due to the added protection of the CTCSS and DCS codes) and CB for the short to mid range stuff. Then hopefully I'll have the NVIS gear in the next 3 months for the longer range comms.
That CB looks very good for the money
Hi 00111001
MSG???
BEWARE: CTCSS and DCS codes DO NOT protect your communications in any way. Any radio tuned to your frequency with no coded squelch engaged will be able to copy everything you say.
CTCSS and DCS are designed to function the other way around, allowing you to only conmmunicate with others using the same code, and cutting out background "noise" from other stations.
LS
(5 September 2012, 12:46)Lightspeed Wrote: [ -> ] (5 September 2012, 12:36)00111001 Wrote: [ -> ] (5 September 2012, 11:17)Lightspeed Wrote: [ -> ]3. As a cheap mobile set-up I've recently installed one of these. its excelelent value for money, small, robust and so far has performed beyond expectations.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAAS-KCB-8040-...46002f87e3
Thanks LS!
Our MSG have decided to use PMR's and UV3/5R's for short range (due to the added protection of the CTCSS and DCS codes) and CB for the short to mid range stuff. Then hopefully I'll have the NVIS gear in the next 3 months for the longer range comms.
That CB looks very good for the money
Hi 00111001
MSG???
BEWARE: CTCSS and DCS codes DO NOT protect your communications in any way. Any radio tuned to your frequency with no coded squelch engaged will be able to copy everything you say.
CTCSS and DCS are designed to function the other way around, allowing you to only conmmunicate with others using the same code, and cutting out background "noise" from other stations.
LS
MSG = Mutual Support Group.
And BUGGER. How'd I get that arse about tit?
Hhmmmm, maybe a hand held CB would be better then, less popular than PMRs. Or the little UV5Rs as they have a greater bandwidth.
Unless there's anything that can be encoded?
Hi 00111001,
There are some UV5r type units that have a rudimentary voice encryption capability. These might be worthwhile looking at. They are more expensive than the 5r of course, but may meet your requirements.
Exmple of a radio with voice encryption: This one has 8 scrambler codes, and will program to work across all of the PMR channels.
http://www.wouxun.com/two-way-radio/walk...G-689E.htm
A simpler way is to talk in codewords. NR has discussed this earlier. Use of short burst transmission of simple codes that are known only to members of your group is a simple solution, and one employed by the military to this day. My group uses this as its contingency protocol.
eg: "Dogs, 20, B, 3k" may mean <<Intruders present in local area, 20 in number, Southeast of Base, range 3000 meters>>
Its also important to use the minimum power needed to get the message through so as not to have your transmissions detected over an excessively wide area.