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To the people of the United Kingdom on your loss in the terrorist attack of May 22, 2017 in Manchester. Our thoughts and prayers are with you.

Its a sad day Jonas, reports have said some bodies cannot be identified

With today's technology all of the bodies will be identified using DNA evaluation, it will just take some time.

People often say they will not let the terrorists win by modifying their lifestyles, but when dealing with ISIS that is not a valid concept. You are just making yourself a repetitive target. Each new crowd is a new and wonderful target.

I should have said 'not easily identified'

Perhaps if baby Bush and Tony Bland had not committed war crimes we'd not be seeing global terror on this scale

Thanks Jonas and MB for your sympathy.

(23 May 2017, 17:59)harrypalmer Wrote: [ -> ]....Perhaps if baby Bush and Tony Bland had not committed war crimes we'd not be seeing global terror on this scale

HP, you have the right to your opinion, but I would disagree.

If you study their own literature the hatred goes back centuries earlier and is ingrained within their political and educational system. Anything which Bush or Blair could have or would have done has only been fodder for spreading politcially correct disinformation.

I don't want to get into a long distance urinating content, but you are just plain wrong.

http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.org/und...ation.html

https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/news/6593...SSTvJLyvcs

http://www.hoover.org/research/religious...-terrorism

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/28/opinio....html?_r=0

http://www.e-ir.info/2011/09/20/the-rise...lobal-age/

Charles, I'll not debate you today, but I will in the future...your out of order chap.

Lets just stick with support for the victims.

Bloody hell ! i agree with Harry....100% .

(23 May 2017, 22:10)Straight Shooter Wrote: [ -> ]Bloody hell ! i agree with Harry....100% .

It is refreshing that you fellows are in agreement, but I would think that people are finding this sort of thing tiresome by now, and while I have sympathy for the victims, the future doesn't look promising. I think this op-ed by your Freddy Gray is on point:

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/afte...next-20799

..." In recent years, the British have looked at the many terror incidents that have taken place in France, Belgium and Germany and thanked our lucky stars that our brilliant security services know how to keep us safe. Our attitude has bordered on hubris. Unlike the other Europeans, Brits are more than willing to have our privacy invaded if it means M15 (our domestic security agency) protects us. We still said so a few weeks ago in March, when a maniac in a car ran over and killed people on Westminster Bridge, then charged at Parliament before being shot. This sort of attack proved that the security services were winning, said the pundits. We can’t do much about lone-wolf attackers, but the more concerted, bomb or heavy-armored attacks require meticulous planning, and we haven’t had one of those atrocities since the suicide bombings on London transport in 2005.

It’s still possible that last night’s attack was the work of a lone individual with no links to known terror groups—nobody is crying Islamism quite yet—but all the experts suggest that an individual would have struggled to make the explosive and carry out the bombing without training or support. This raises the question of whether the British security state really is viable."

Freddy Gray, deputy editor of the London Spectator, is a regular contributor to the National Interest.

So Charles ....what on earth have we in the west ever done to them to deserve such a sick attack on kids in Manchester ? moreover who are really responsible? you would think we have bombed their kids with drones for goodness sake.

The thing is Charles if we in the west make it our biz to invade sovereign countries around the globe and destabilise them with impunity under the respectable flag of weapons of mass destruction and terrorism.....guess what......those countries and people get a bit pissed and some of us here get even more pissed with LIES OF MASS DESTRUCTION...

So i ask you Charles ....without the use of links....what do you really think ? just you