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Forced Migration - Paul - 5 November 2012

Homeless families kicked out of London and sent to WALES.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228086/Homeless-families-kicked-London-sent-WALES-councils-buy-cheap-properties-house-them.html

TPTB been doing this for ages but it is an increasingly worrying trend and one which Charities warned about ages ago.

I'm of two minds here.
  • Being moved away from London could be a good move as I can't think of a reason for living there or in fact any big city.

  • It's bad because it snaps up all the cheap housing in an area and I've no doubt the "migrants" will get priority over the locals sat on the waiting list.

Add to the brew the cost of local housing will increase as unscrupulous landlords cash in and I feel the prospect for the locals doesn't look good for a long time.

Socially I think it's going to cause problems.
  • You have a "new type of immigrant". In Wales? Of all places! You've got an instant language problem which most visitors to Wales would have experienced.

  • You've probably introducing cultural problems as Londoners are "different" to small town inhabitants.

  • The cheap housing is usually grouped in areas. It always is. This could lead to almost a "ghetto complex".

  • Finally you've got the increase of load to the health, social, shops, and an already depressed labour market.


Now without someone getting all political and ranting from a soap box, about socialism and the like,

What's your thoughts on the social side of things and what will happen in the affected communities?

After all the scheme could be extended to encompass rural areas and those of us who think we have 'escaped' the rat race could be lumbered with the very thing we tried to escape from i.e. too many people in too little an area.


RE: Forced Migration - Prepper1 - 5 November 2012

I think I'm quite lucky, I've just been offered a council flat.
By the looks of things, there wont be enough to go around soon.
Slum landlords will be back, mind you judging by my last privately rented house they never went away...


RE: Forced Migration - BrixhamBadger - 5 November 2012

If I was in that situation I would jump at the chance to move to Wales from London.

London is a cesspit.


RE: Forced Migration - bigpaul - 5 November 2012

i dont know about anywhere else but in this area there just ISNT a large number of empty "council" houses, they dont keep empty ones, they are let, tenant leaves, then its relet in quick time, as for empty houses in general there still isnt many, got a couple on my BOL list but their out in the sticks miles from anywhere....maybe Plymouth or Exeter could find some empty homes??


RE: Forced Migration - Straight Shooter - 5 November 2012

well unless their preppers they are not welcome....and we don,t need the competition on housing and the nhs which are already struggling......but it is a beautiful place to live.... if i was a londoner i would jump at the chance... but its not their fault....that falls on the gov ...and the welsh arsehole assembly for allowing it , but people no matter where their from need somewhere to live just like all of us, as for social change ...yes it will mean change but wtshtf migration of people will happen anyway..like it or not its parr for the coarse..but i suspect we would welshify em with a funny shaped ball for starters.....they stand no chance and all the while singing MEN OF HARLECH.. give up now englanders come out vish your hanns up


RE: Forced Migration - BrixhamBadger - 5 November 2012

Money will be changing hands somewhere along the line....


RE: Forced Migration - BDG - 5 November 2012

I would not say it is forced - the people who may move do have a choice, they can earn enough to pay their rent or they can move somewhere else. A lot depends on to where they are moved and who moves. Having said that, not as many as people think may move.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/find.html?locationIdentifier=REGION^93917&sortByPriceDescending=false&minPrice=100&maxPrice=1500

Thousands of sub £400 a week places to live.

In the effected communities where people move to - if it really happens, people will assimilate into the local community - the will more than likely be put into areas of same or similar socio-economic grouping.

In London, we should see a reduction in rents - only a small one however, as there are plenty of sub £400/week places to live. However, rents will no longer be artificially inflated, landlords will have to charge what people can afford, it may make it better for those in London who earn, but not a lot.

I cannot see these people who move being moved to the countryside. The majority will be heavily dependent on support some services - doctors, mental health workers, social workers, substance misuse workers and so on and so are given priority to be in urban areas. It is a fact that you see such islands of dependance in certain parts of urban areas. When I observed this to my brother he explained it (he is a sociologist).


RE: Forced Migration - NorthernRaider - 5 November 2012

So round up all the poor and dispossessed that Labour imported into the Uk who decided to settle in Londonabad and ship em to poor impoverished Wales, WTF did the Welsh do to deserve that?


RE: Forced Migration - bowdrill - 5 November 2012

keep the fu///s in your country not enough sheep to go round Sad


bd


RE: Forced Migration - Straight Shooter - 5 November 2012

thanks bowdrill it needed to be said, i would have but i am trying to pull doris at moment WOW what a babe .....she had a bad time with a londoner ....... she told me thisafternoon over tea them londoners got no finess like what we got down here