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Defining prepping and survivalism (an attempt anyway) - NorthernRaider - 9 April 2014 Defining Prepping and Survivalism There is an interesting few threads running on SUK about WHAT IS PREPPING and SURVIVALISM As compared to Camping / Bushcraft / Wilderness survival So in MY opinion I would describe it thus PREPPING AND SURVIVALISM is the term used to describe an entire LIFESTYLE or SKILLSET(s) a sub culture of mainstream society if you wish. PREPPING or SURVIVALISM is the COLLECTIVE term used to describe people who adopt in full or in part a lifestyle involving self-reliance, self-determination and mastering to a modest levels as many practical skills as they can. In no particular order the SKILLS and CRAFTS that Survivalists and Preppers tend to learn or adopt are things like Growing as much of their own food as possible Small Scale Agriculture such as raisng chickens and rabbits for food Small scale brewing Jam and preserve making Permaculture skills Food preservation Home Security risk assessing and adaptations Self Defence skills Researching and archiving skills Medical skills and Homeopathic skills Designing, building, operating and maintaining their own off –grid power generation systems Building their own wind turbines Vehicle adaptation and Maintenance Vehicle fault diagnosis Tyre Changing Making their own biofuels Wilderness and Bush craft survival skills Urban foraging and survival skills Political sciences and risk asessment Ploughing and tractor driving Winter driving skills and winter vehicle preps Reconnaissance and report writing Knitting, weaving and cloth making Rappelling and abseiling and other mountaineering skills Light engineering such as building their own wood burning stoves and DIY water treatment systems Skill at arms with various tools from Bows to rifles, to staffs to bare hand fighting DIY skills for adapting the home to be more suited to prepping Off road driving skills Sail and power boat operation Canoe and Kayak use Mountain biking skills and bike maintenance Angling skills Horse riding Emergency dental repairing skills Communications and Signalling skills (EG CB / Ham radio setup and use) In summary the skills and crafts list can go on and on, but as you can see Bushcraft and Wilderness survival are only individual PARTS of a greater skillset that make up the whole sub culture known as Prepping and Survivalism. And as a wise chap pointed out to me in an E mail only last night, not only is Bushcraft and Wilderness survival NOT Prepping and Survivalism (it’s a part of the whole or an ingredient in the cake). Very often those who are such strong advocates of learning Bushcraft and Wilderness survival in some (not all) cases they do so as people who live in large towns cities and ignore the greater need to master URBAN survival skills first.That is a concern the community needs to address. Hope that helps clarify the occasional confusion RE: Defining prepping and survivalism (an attempt anyway) - Scythe13 - 9 April 2014 You seem to have missed one massive point about prepping and survivalism. It's about a disaster situation survival, e.g. SituationX. A homestedder or an off grid hippie commune would cover some of the skills and be considered as preppers by the above definition. Add the fact that it's about surviving a situation forseen by the individual/group being defined, then you'd be getting agreement from me, 100%. One question though, is it really important to define what prepping and survivalism is? RE: Defining prepping and survivalism (an attempt anyway) - NorthernRaider - 9 April 2014 S13 You seem to have missed one massive point about prepping and survivalism. It's about a disaster situation survival, e.g. SituationX. NR No sir, its about what Survivalism and prepping IS as a sub culture not what it is FOR eg Disaster survival, terror attack, economic collapse, EMP, Zombie apocalypse, Labour wining the election, Tsunami, Quake etc S13 A homestedder or an off grid hippie commune would cover some of the skills and be considered as preppers by the above definition. NR again its not about WHO it applies to but WHAT it is as a sub culture, There is probably more people out there living as preppers but would never in a million years call themselves such S13 Add the fact that it's about surviving a situation forseen by the individual/group being defined, then you'd be getting agreement from me, 100%. NR Surviving & THRIVING S13 One question though, is it really important to define what prepping and survivalism is? NR apparently so because there are still people who think Prepping and Survival IS just Bushcraft and wilderness survival And those folks are already very well catered for on forums like Bushcraft UK, Ludlow SG etc xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx NR apparently so because there are still people who think Prepping and Survival IS just Bushcraft and wilderness survival Smile ESPECIALLY the News papers, MEDIA and many newbies ( and self appointed experts on You Tube ) RE: Defining prepping and survivalism (an attempt anyway) - BeardyMan - 9 April 2014 Ah, another pointless list of shit... RE: Defining prepping and survivalism (an attempt anyway) - Scythe13 - 9 April 2014 (9 April 2014, 09:44)NorthernRaider Wrote: Point 1. I'm going to answer these as the 3 points I've labelled them as. Point 1. Prepping, as a subculture is defined by the people, whom are united in the fact that they are getting ready to survive a SituationX. It's not about being self sufficiency. Self sufficiency is a part of prepping, but a self-sufficient person is not neccessarily a prepper. A 4x4 driver isn't neccessarily a prepper. An arts and crafts teacher is not neccccceeeessssserily a prepper, even though they're teaching skills. Same with even Ray Mears, he has the skills, but he's not a prepper (to the best of my knowledge). They're just people that get on with what they do. Point 2. That doesn't make sense in a logical format. Once again, a subculture is the people. Using self-sufficiency as an example...Prepping and Survivalism isn't about being self sufficient. It's about the people and what they're being self sufficient for. A hippie in a commune growing his own plants is not a prepper. He might be 'accidentally' prepped if something did happen, but he is not purposefully prepping. If you have such a spurious link for prepped and prepping, then any farmer with solar panels, is also prepping and is a prepper. That makes no sense. He's just being a farmer, and the hippie being a hippie. A culture cannot exist without the people, and the people are defined as a 'united cultural movement' because they have one uniting factor, the survival of a SHTF situation, e.g. SitX. Point 3. Well thankfully everyone on this forum has agreed that prepping and survivalism does involve bushcraft and survival skills to some extent or another, so you don't need to preach to the converted. I'm not sure if pushing the fact that prepping is not a single skill set, is of much benefit to anyone on the forum. Point 4. - Not mentioned, but one I'd like to bring up. NR, you sometimes come out with complete gem's and really useful information, but this thread is clearly better defined by BM's wording. It's of no use to the forum...the same as every post in response (yes, I am actually wasting my time and I admit I am doing so haha). Please check what defines the requirements for a culture. It's the people. RE: Defining prepping and survivalism (an attempt anyway) - NorthernRaider - 9 April 2014 All opinions are valid and I accept them all at face value. RE: Defining prepping and survivalism (an attempt anyway) - Scythe13 - 9 April 2014 Has someone hacked NR's account? I think maybe NR has started smoking weed and is very chilled out. Very odd. I think I preferred the grump old NR that hated me back. It's weird hating someone that's being amicable. But not too weird so that I'll stop wanting to push him into a swimming pool, or something like that haha. RE: Defining prepping and survivalism (an attempt anyway) - NorthernRaider - 9 April 2014 Study this guy for the answer "Niccolò Machiavelli" I'm always willing to learn no methods. RE: Defining prepping and survivalism (an attempt anyway) - Scythe13 - 9 April 2014 (9 April 2014, 11:31)NorthernRaider Wrote: Study this guy for the answer "Niccolò Machiavelli" I'm always willing to learn no methods. Already have. The Prince was one of the first books my father used to read to me as a child. RE: Defining prepping and survivalism (an attempt anyway) - Tartar Horde - 10 April 2014 "The Prince" as one of my History tutors called it "A manual for despots" the essence of which is "if you can't be respected or loved, it is better to be feared". Regarding the debate above, defining Prepping and Survivalism is a subjective position, being dependent on how you personally see and understand it, it is different things to different people. The subject is not set in stone, and we all take our own paths through it. |