TSHTF has started.

[bigpaul]

watching the news reports this morning and seeing the huge numbers of "migrants" swarming across the Austria border, does anyone else but us(me and the wife) think "forget WHEN TSHTF , its already started, this is it"??

[Devonian]

I think for parts of Europe yes, that could well be the case.

At the moment, despite the huge numbers of immigrants etc already here, I think the UK is still fairly well protected. Even if Cameron allows the 4k or even 10k Syrian immigrants in it won't really make a huge difference over here. But in places like Turkey; Hungary; Austria; Germany; Denmark and even Sweden given their policy's, then yes this could end up being the start of something significant.

[bigpaul]

they will find a way to get into the UK just by the sheer weight of numbers that are coming, the whole of the middle east and Africa seems to be on the move and their all moving towards Europe and heading West. I just wish Cameron would stop saying how wonderful this country is, its not helping.

[Skean Dhude]

This started back after WWII with the introduction of the social security system which was caused by WWII which was caused by .... so there isn't really a starting point just a slow build up which will eventually reach a tipping point.

But the question is when will to tip, what is the starting point we are looking for so we can initiate our plans?

I don't see this being it.

[bigpaul]

i'm watching this very closely, I think this could be the start of something much bigger.

[Sunna]

its already here.
1 in 8 not british [this includes in the 8 all the people who started coming over in the 50s about 7/8 million].

25% of all newborns are not celtic/saxon .

a press / media that keeps telling us that immergration is good for us , bullshit its good for big business that wants cheap labour

[Devonian]

Have a look at the following map to see what the migration levels are like in your local area.

http://visual.ons.gov.uk/what-are-migrat...your-area/

[Sunna]

is this true.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=yo...pp=desktop

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the express ....it must be true.....

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/5554...e-Refugees

[bigpaul]

there are now 8.3 million people living in the UK who weren't born here, amongst that lot must be quite a few "extremists/terrorists".

[Straight Shooter]

I am more worried about financial collapse ....which has began ...the people or refugees fleeing conflict from the East caused by ISIS ( we are led to believe ) .....and now voices are saying we need more action and boots on the ground....so they can save us.....what a load of bollocks....all this because of the inescapable financial collapse that they can lay blame anywhere else and on whoever else but the real bastards who are to blame.....mean while as always We will be preoccupied shovelling ourselves out of the shit...that means everyone....but at least we have prepared for it.....i do not think we have seen anything yet.....go get MORE preps.