How long would you last?

[NorthernRaider]

My scanner is a UBC 360 CLT
•Channel Memory Scanning
•Memory Availability
•Direct Channel Access
•Channel Lockout
•Frequency Lockout
•Alarm Clock with Snooze
•AM/FM
•Priority Channel
•Duplicate Channel Alert
•Limit Frequency Searching
•Aircraft Band Search
•Scan and Search Speed
•Clock Display
•Delay
•LCD Backlight
•Key Touch Tone
•EEprom Memory Backup
•Battery Alert
•Auto Power Off
•Packing includes: Scanner, AC Adaptor, Telescopic Antenna, AM Loop Antenna, User Manual

Scanner Base, 300 Memory Channels, 10 Banks, Triple Bandplan, Frequency Range 0.5 - 1.72 MHz ( = AM Radio), 25 - 87.3 MHz, 87.3 - 108 MHz ( = WFM Radio ), 108 - 174 MHz, 406 - 512 MHz, 806 - 960MHz, Alarm and Clock Radio,
Selectable Airband 12.5/8.33MHz

[NorthernRaider]

This is where my small group will be talking if Cell and Landlines go bang when TSHTF.

Analogue PMR446 covers band 446.0–446.2 MHz and digital dPMR/DMR cover 446.1–446.2 MHz; CEPT envisions that the digital band may be extended onto analogue band in the future.

Radios may now have removable antennas in some countries as long as the ERP does not exceed 500 mW, for example in the UK.[7] The general ECC decision[8] however still requires integral antennas and the actual implementation varies between different countries.

Analogue FM

Analogue PMR uses sixteen FM channels separated by 12.5 kHz from each other. Per regulation, maximum power, like FRS, is 500 mW ERP and equipment must be used on a mobile basis. CTCSS is usually used, with more upmarket models also featuring DCS.


PMR Channel

Frequency (MHz)

1 446.00625
2 446.01875
3 446.03125
4 446.04375
5 446.05625
6 446.06875
7 446.08125
8 446.09375
9 446.10625
10 446.11875
11 446.13125
12 446.14375
13 446.15625
14 446.16875
15 446.18125
16 446.19375

Digital FDMA[edit]

Digital dPMR446 uses sixteen digital voice channels separated by 6.25 kHz from each other with 4-level FSK modulation at 3.6 kbit/s.[9]


dPMR446 Channel

Frequency (MHz)

1 446.103125
2 446.109375
3 446.115625
4 446.121875
5 446.128125
6 446.134375
7 446.140625
8 446.146875
9 446.153125
10 446.159375
11 446.165625
12 446.171875
13 446.178125
14 446.184375
15 446.190625
16 446.196875

Digital TDMA

Digital DMR Tier I uses eight digital voice channels separated by 12.5 kHz from each other with 4-level FSK modulation at 3.6 kbit/s.[10]


DMR Tier I Channel

Frequency (MHz)

1 446.10625
2 446.11875
3 446.13125
4 446.14375
5 446.15625
6 446.16875
7 446.18125
8 446.19375

PMR446 gateways

Recently some users have implemented the simplex repeater system, a cheap and easy way to extend the radio range by using extra radios connected to a small repeater controller. This is also known as "Parrot", "ATX-2000" or just "Echo Repeater" after how it sounds repeating every transmission it receives.[11]

PMR446 gateways extend the range of PMR446. These gateways are connected through internet using a client/server VoIP system such as eQSO or the Free Radio Network (FRN).

[harrypalmer]

The Bearcat and Eton are just about OK budget radio's, the Eton range are often rebadged Grundig. You really do need to broaden your comms horizons... your setup will leave you peeing into the wind and getting nowhere very fast IMHO if and when it hits the fan. Amateures have a place they really need to go at least semi pro to get results.

The LI often went around obstacles lol so at least I can now see your background and have more insight into your somewhat blinkered view.

This seems to be your forum, so I'll go quiet for a bit and see if others can add to this and other threads apart from your view.

[Steve]

US CB 27Mhz AM is tried and tested, the rigs are cheap and rugged, information is widely available. Why re-invent the wheel ?

There are literally hundreds of models of transceivers, linear amps and aerials available for peanuts. Range is pretty good on AM, many rigs have USB and LSB too, and in the right conditions have a range of many hundreds of miles.

People who are electronically literate can easily modify some of these radios to gain more private channels, a model that sticks in my mind as easy to modify was the Superstar 360.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Superstar-360-...Sw~OVWzd0o

[NorthernRaider]

Steve, one of the new PRESIDENT series of CBs supposedly does 27FM, 27AM UK, CEPt , US EU, poland and Russia AND 12watt SSB which is now legal in the UK
found it the President Grant 2
President Grant II UK & EXPORT MODELS


Brand new multi-mode mobile CB radio, the President Grant II has 40ch UK FM and 40 (CEPT) FM channels NOW and offers AM/FM/SSB modes which are now fully legal to use in the UK.

•40 channels AM / FM / LSB / USB
•40 channels UK FM, 40 channels (CEPT) FM
• Volume adjustment and ON/OFF
• Manual squelch and ASC
• Multi-functions LCD display
• Frequency/channel display
• S-meter
• Vox function (hands free)
• ANL filter , NB and HI-CUT
• Local DX key
• Clarifier
• Channels and memories scan
• 5 Memories
• Dim
• F function key
• Beep Function
• Roger Beep
• Mode switch AM / FM / LSB / USB
•Output power - 4 watts AM/FM - 12watts LSB/USB

• Dual watch
• Key locking
• SWR (Power Reading /SWR)
• Preset 9/19
• TOT (Time out timer)
• Front microphone plug
• External loudspeaker jack
•Included accessories :
•microphone UP/DOWN with support
•mounting cradle
•screws and fused power cord.
•Dimensions HWD (mm) : 56 x 185 x 205
•Weight : 1.1 kg
•Here's some details for the President Grant *** Export version:
•Covers 26.965MHz to 30.105MHz in 10 bands (A - J, 40 channels each)
•Simply push function (F button) to scroll through banks A - J.

Read more: http://www.nevadaradio.co.uk/cb/cb-radio...z4AGmvzd6D

[NorthernRaider]

Harry WHY will it leave me peeing in the wind?, I dont need a HAM kit it serves NO purpose in my plans, never has done never will do, all my comms are more than well met by PMR and CB. I have been prepping and surviving since 1979 and I still do not need Ham gear or a ham licence, Others like LS or HAL do because their needs are different. I can LISTEN to ham broadcasts if necc but I see no need to talk to them, (considering most em of only talk about ham radios )

Harry I'm not trying to be nasty but you appear to be displaying the typical Ham User moral superiority attitude which does not help.

Its definately not my forum Harry, 100% not its totally SDs and the dozen or so normally absent moderators

[NorthernRaider]

OK shall we now continue this thread where we left off about how long can you last, I reckon my own preps should last 8 weeks of full confinement to about 16 weeks with some venturing outdoors to burn rubbish and empty the contents of the camping toilets etc

[River Song]

Did someone call??

At the moment we are run down so only about 4 - 6 weeks

Must resupply

As far as comms go , I make no comment.
The debate would go on over a bottle of something until 2am
but it does sound (from an outsiders point of view) like comparing
dick sizes.

Put it away :-)

[Devonian]

How long? 6+ months comfortably without any issue, longer if supplemented with other sources or reduced rations.

As for the comms argument, I've gone round in circles on this for months, but ultimately I've also come to the conclusion that Ham is not for me, even the uV5R's are probably more than I would ever need. I have no real need for communicating with others outside of my immediate area and so walkie talkies such as the BF-888's and my trusty CB will suffice for my needs.

[Lightspeed]

Just got back on forum and see a lot of coms stuff here so will make one short comment:

NR and I are on exactly the same page on comms: It boils down to identifying what each of us NEEDS and preparing accordingly.

I'll open a thread on the coms section in the next day or two to open a proper discussion on communication needs, wants and fairy tale dreams:-)