TS has already HTF...what if we get similar again?

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(2 May 2022, 19:09)Scythe13 Wrote: This is a follow on from the Bugging Out in a storm scenario thread.

Continuing from what MB said, we have been in a vicious situation recently. It was not an EOTWAWKI type situation. But there was definitely poop hitting the fan and it made things difficult for many people.

During this period my (now ex) wife realised I was not crazy and she looked at me like I was some kind of hero. Everyone around was panicking. She was super calm thanks to prepping. However, should we go through a situation like that again, where we are all locked down and there are police roadblocks and the alike, it makes for a very difficult situation if your plan is to bug out. The pandemic was a situation where many were able to get through and contrary to popular belief, the government managed to organise...something resembling a plan (let's not dwell on how well it was handled. The point is more that the government was under a kind of martial law). However it does lead to the thought of, if things were like that again, but worse, would we be looking at a slow decline as opposed to the more short term madness depicted by so many books, films, podcasts, etc.

Should we be facing another government managed slow decline, what would you do, what tips would you provide and how do you feel it would play out?

I'll take a run at this, if I may.
1, Police road blocks. A lot of police have been demoralised with single crew policy and some have found greater resolve. I wonder if this would eventually come down to numbers? A lot of police officers have left because of stress and this was happening before 2020.
Is it possible that during any kind of situation where a city had to be locked down and blockades put in place that the police would have their hands full trying to keep people in? Possibly, but does it not depend on what the situation is and why exactly they need to be locked down in the first place? Is it possible that people have had enough? Would they fight back? Could they breakthrough?
I don't know. Some people will comply if they are frightened enough, while others might carry on regardless.
2, BO is difficult if there are road blocks in place. Wouldn't that depend on your plan? If you need a vehicle and there are roadblocks, then absolutely it would be a problem. Not only could you get snarled up in stationary traffic but you might get turned round and sent home again, possibly.
If you plan to go by bike (I saw an earlier post about bikes) or horses (again I saw previous replies to a post) or on foot, then perhaps such road blocks could be circumvented by going off road.
I don't know. It would depend on the situation that caused a BO, the amount of people available to maintain a blockade and the local topography.
3, Martial law and anything approaching martial law. I have heard but cannot confirm that some of our troop are 'on exercises' abroad. Does it even matter? How many people live here now? How many are our standing troops? If the citizenry goes hungry (for example) would there be enough persons of office to quell any problematic behaviour which might arise? If so, for how long can they hold things down? Where does their ammo come from? Who have we sanctioned recently? How are our imports looking?
4, Long-term vs short-term. That depends on what goes down first, does it not?
All electronic systems have frailties. Many countries have identified weaknesses but not used them yet. They are waiting for a zero day type event. There are plenty of areas that could be easily compromised.

Have you kept an eye on food manufacturing and processing globally since 2020? Or unexpected, severe weather? Or animal 'flu' globally? Have you kept tabs on animal euthanasia recently? Banks can limit daily withdrawal from your account. Banks can refuse to let you access your account under certain circumstances. Do you know what 'force majeure' is? How many people live near you? How many of them are ready for another lockdown? How many are ready should there be no resupply at your nearest supermarket or shop? How many of them learned a dang thing on the last lockdown?

What to do? That depends on what happens. What breaks first? Shelter in place is better in most or many circumstances. Some may have an 'I'm alright, jack' sense because they live in a more remote area. If the towns and cities go bananas, then perhaps kiss bye-bye to 'local' policing? If the cities cannot be contained, then hungry people are going to look for food. I doubt they are going to care if it is 'yours' because you grew it. This is why isolationism rarely works - there will always be more of 'them' than there are of 'us' - putting it bluntly.
Perhaps you should do as much as you can at home. Grow and maybe put a few bags or tins aside. Get prepared to defend it but only if the numbers are on your side. Are you ready to die because of a tin of spam?

Bugging out? In your own area ... how many neighbours (in your best guess) have proper survival equipment? How many have food procurement needs met? How many could 100% hit a cow's ar$e with a banjo when it really counts? How many have a big, old a$s coming out the front of their shirt and how many are you really afraid of, if it had to go hand to hand? How many can tell the difference between wild carrots and a certain other prolific plant, for example. How many near you know how water works safely?
Perhaps just be ready to outlast all the others? You're here, aren't you? You probably already are ready - it never feels enough though, does it mate? Location is zero guarantee of safety. Why limit your own options when today the supply chain is still sort of working: clothing and outdoor gear is still available, army excess stores are still running for bits and bobs, online can still get delivery on some things ... anyone who does not have 'food procurement' tippy-top may have sh1t the bed, mind. I ordered one thing from Europe in Nov - I may get it next week with luck. My life does not depend upon it and so I have zero concern.

Never underestimate an opponent. There is strength in numbers and that does cut both ways. Knowledge, information, situational awareness, and the ability to adapt to anything will give you a slightly better chance than the average phone-bie couch spud.

Good luck, pal.