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One for Big Paul
23 September 2012, 11:49,
#21
RE: One for Big Paul
@Bp I've heard of shaking hands when you meet someone but shaking your... At them when you meet I think I'll pass personally I'd prefer somewhere a little more fertile after all tight wet dark places are more fertile than your hand even a seed knows that :p

Joking aside I think paganism has alot we can learn from as I believe (and correct me if I'm wrong) that most rituals had to do with the position of the sun and/or moon the summer/winter solstice (half way through winter so its going to start getting gradually warmer so your over the worst), full moon (a way of keeping track of the months and therefore how long until you can plant x, y, z), mayday is one too I think and then they believe in working with nature not against it so using natural remeadies etc so I think even if we don't believe in it there are things to be learnt from it.
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23 September 2012, 13:35,
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RE: One for Big Paul
(23 September 2012, 11:49)Ukprepper88 Wrote: @Bp I've heard of shaking hands when you meet someone but shaking your... At them when you meet I think I'll pass personally I'd prefer somewhere a little more fertile after all tight wet dark places are more fertile than your hand even a seed knows that :p

Joking aside I think paganism has alot we can learn from as I believe (and correct me if I'm wrong) that most rituals had to do with the position of the sun and/or moon the summer/winter solstice (half way through winter so its going to start getting gradually warmer so your over the worst), full moon (a way of keeping track of the months and therefore how long until you can plant x, y, z), mayday is one too I think and then they believe in working with nature not against it so using natural remeadies etc so I think even if we don't believe in it there are things to be learnt from it.
the ancient Britons used to go into battle NAKED..that would put the hebegebees on anyone!! you are right about the ceremonies, all to do with nature and time of year.
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23 September 2012, 13:59,
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RE: One for Big Paul
(23 September 2012, 13:35)bigpaul Wrote: the ancient Britons used to go into battle NAKED..that would put the hebegebees on anyone!! you are right about the ceremonies, all to do with nature and time of year.

they werent naked, they were covered in blue! like giant smurfs xD
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23 September 2012, 20:45,
#24
RE: One for Big Paul
Me again Smile

I don't mean to drag this out and cause arguments but I think some people don't quite understand what the term "pagan" means. Pagan or paganism in itself isn't a religion, it isnt anything other than a term that can be attached to a multitude of non-abrahamic faiths but these days it is generally linked to any number of rehashed and/or recently invented beliefs and also to some genuinely older beliefs. What it isn't is a term for nature worship, although some pagans do so many other pagans dont.

Anyway, my point wasnt to define what a pagan is or isnt but more to point out that in a shtf situation, in my (humble Smile ) opinion, I would question the judgement of someone who as an adult believes in what i would describe as fairy tales. So taking their belief in religion/fairytales into account I would not want to potentially trust them with my life.

No wonder I have trouble finding a suitable group - no religious nuts, no sheep, no chavs, no socialists, no...... Smile Smile
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24 September 2012, 11:00,
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RE: One for Big Paul
(23 September 2012, 20:45)IB1 Wrote: Me again Smile

I don't mean to drag this out and cause arguments but I think some people don't quite understand what the term "pagan" means. Pagan or paganism in itself isn't a religion, it isnt anything other than a term that can be attached to a multitude of non-abrahamic faiths but these days it is generally linked to any number of rehashed and/or recently invented beliefs and also to some genuinely older beliefs. What it isn't is a term for nature worship, although some pagans do so many other pagans dont.

Anyway, my point wasnt to define what a pagan is or isnt but more to point out that in a shtf situation, in my (humble Smile ) opinion, I would question the judgement of someone who as an adult believes in what i would describe as fairy tales. So taking their belief in religion/fairytales into account I would not want to potentially trust them with my life.

No wonder I have trouble finding a suitable group - no religious nuts, no sheep, no chavs, no socialists, no...... Smile Smile
OK you suit yourself, no wonder like you say you have trouble finding a group if you question their beliefs like this.
Some people that prefer to be alone arent anti-social they just have no time for drama, stupidity and false people.
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24 September 2012, 11:35,
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RE: One for Big Paul
Never met anyone who does not shout " Oh God" when the bullets are incoming.

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24 September 2012, 11:40,
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RE: One for Big Paul
(24 September 2012, 11:35)NorthernRaider Wrote: Never met anyone who does not shout " Oh God" when the bullets are incoming.

not me brother! more likely "oh shit"Big Grin
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24 September 2012, 18:03,
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RE: One for Big Paul
Quote:OK you suit yourself, no wonder like you say you have trouble finding a group if you question their beliefs like this.

It's not their beliefs that I question, well, not just their beliefs - it's mainly their judgement Wink

Right, so Im looking for an atheist, right wing, heterosexual, anglo-saxon, non yoghurt knitting, and non chav group, which shares my opinions on absolutely everything - is that too much to ask ?

Good job i'm happier on my own i guess. Smile

Anyways, I better leave it alone now, what was the original topic again ? Smile



You have the right to hold any beliefs you want. You do not have the right to have those beliefs automatically respected
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24 September 2012, 18:10,
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RE: One for Big Paul
(24 September 2012, 18:03)IB1 Wrote:
Quote:OK you suit yourself, no wonder like you say you have trouble finding a group if you question their beliefs like this.

It's not their beliefs that I question, well, not just their beliefs - it's mainly their judgement Wink

Right, so Im looking for an atheist, right wing, heterosexual, anglo-saxon, non yoghurt knitting, and non chav group, which shares my opinions on absolutely everything - is that too much to ask ?

Good job i'm happier on my own i guess. Smile

Anyways, I better leave it alone now, what was the original topic again ? Smile
now lets see, atheist? probably best..dont want arguements on whose religion is best, right wing? yes we dont want any left leaning socialists do we? heterosexual...better include a few women in the group then!Big Grin anglo saxon? yes we dont want any of those nasty celts do we? non yogurt knitting? whats wrong with yogurt? prefer ice cream myself! non chav...you aint kidding..we dont want any of them within a hundred miles! you got it about right i think. prefer "lone wolf" myself too.
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24 September 2012, 18:15,
#30
RE: One for Big Paul
We could invite a few undesirables along, they could be handy to sharpen up our hunting and trapping skills on Smile
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