150,000 dole claiment sign off when asked to work

[BDG]

I have seen myself people who are not on the dole stay on and come off in cycles. It used to be every 16 weeks I think that you would have a very intensive review if you were on the dole, they got more intense after the second one where you would be asked a lot of questions and told that you were no longer allowed to specify what field you wanted to work in and that you had to apply for any job that you could do.

What would happen is the scroungers turn up a few days before the interview, sign off saying they have a job - which of course does not exist and then come back a few days later saying the job had fell through. It would reset the clock for them so they would be back to specifying they wanted to be whatever it was they had no chance of getting a job as.

I did a bit of work in a jobcentre and it was laughable. People in their 40's would come in and would put things like 'apprentice hairdresser' down as first choice for a job, after a lifetime of not being a hairdresser. People like this should be told to eff off. People would not be reviewed and would just have to sign for their dole as the staff thought them 'too much hassle'.

Of the 150,000, I bet nearly all of them made a new claim within 2 weeks.

Tough for those that have trained to do something specific if their are no jobs, they can move where the jobs exist.

[Barneyboy]

(25 November 2012, 17:39)BDG Wrote: I have seen myself people who are not on the dole stay on and come off in cycles. It used to be every 16 weeks I think that you would have a very intensive review if you were on the dole, they got more intense after the second one where you would be asked a lot of questions and told that you were no longer allowed to specify what field you wanted to work in and that you had to apply for any job that you could do.

What would happen is the scroungers turn up a few days before the interview, sign off saying they have a job - which of course does not exist and then come back a few days later saying the job had fell through. It would reset the clock for them so they would be back to specifying they wanted to be whatever it was they had no chance of getting a job as.

I did a bit of work in a jobcentre and it was laughable. People in their 40's would come in and would put things like 'apprentice hairdresser' down as first choice for a job, after a lifetime of not being a hairdresser. People like this should be told to eff off. People would not be reviewed and would just have to sign for their dole as the staff thought them 'too much hassle'.

Of the 150,000, I bet nearly all of them made a new claim within 2 weeks.

Tough for those that have trained to do something specific if their are no jobs, they can move where the jobs exist.

re train or sod off my point on the head

[Skean Dhude]

These people adapt to any rule change you make.

The socialist welfare system falls apart when the people paying in realise they don't need to work either.

[NorthernRaider]

(25 November 2012, 19:23)Skean Dhude Wrote: These people adapt to any rule change you make.

The socialist welfare system falls apart when the people paying in realise they don't need to work either.

The problem is always the same with such systems, there is always more and more people wanting to take out of a communal cooking pot than there are willing to add ingredients to it.

The only way such systems can function fairly is if membership is voluntary not obligatory, and then only those willing to pay in can take anything back out.

But any system that allows people to take out of a communal pot but have never put anything in, or those who take out more than they put in, well that system is always doomed to failure.

And the worst possible of all systems is one that DOES allow people to take out with contributing, and one that lets people take out more than they put, compounded by a system that is obligatory, Thats just robbery and theft.

[BDG]

(25 November 2012, 19:32)NorthernRaider Wrote:

(25 November 2012, 19:23)Skean Dhude Wrote: These people adapt to any rule change you make.

The socialist welfare system falls apart when the people paying in realise they don't need to work either.

The problem is always the same with such systems, there is always more and more people wanting to take out of a communal cooking pot than there are willing to add ingredients to it.

Alexis de Tocqueville Wrote:A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury.

What the French guy said ^^^.

[Wildman]

i came back from devon 9 years ago looking for work. being that i had no money at all i was staying with my mum and was bringing down the family home having no money. so u can bet your last ton of stored rice lol that i looked EVERYWERE for work, i found nothing. so i started teaching guitar for 10er a lesson. only brought in 20-30 a week witch i gave to my mum. this was before the resession by the way. i then found out by networking (going to the pub) that there was a massive amount of c i h graft witch kept my mum and me fed and warm. then all the pubs closed, work died, and foreign lot took over what little work was there in the first place. i now have a new rule. as long as i'm not stealing off of anyone or directly hurting anyone anythings game!! if i did what the pricks that be said i'de be homeless. do what u have to and dont let any law break your morals!

[BDG]

(26 November 2012, 00:14)Wildman Wrote: dont let any law break your morals!

I like and can completely agree with that.

[Cestrian]

ive worked most of my life, Worked in the security sector until late 2004 when i saw the industry was going downhill so found myself out of work and on the JSA, it was the worst thing i have ever had to do, you go to sign on and they treat you like everyone else, just another piece of s**t who just wants a free ride, well that just isn't me, so eventually i got offered a job in retail for a huge supermarket retailer and have worked nights for 7 odd years now, but over the past 3-4 years retail companies are stopping a lot of full time employment and are going for the part-time alternative. Big shot companies don't value there staff anymore, they just value how much paper is in the bank

[Prepper1]

If you want to know whats going to happen here look at whats happening in the u.s. now.
DEMCAD goes into the subjects a lot and though manty people will say because its the u.s. its not relevent it is.
Whatever the u.s. does or tries so does our government.
Only a few weeks ago Demcad was saying how its hard to find full time jobs over there as the employers are realising that its cheaper to hire multiple part timers to do one full time job.
Thats exactly whats happening over here and its only going to get worse trust me.
This country embraces multiculturalism and it will to the DEATH.
No matter what shite this government or the next spouts there will be NO reduction in immigration.
Labour let thousands in from Pakistan and elsewhere provided they voted for them, the Conservatives do the same.
We send billions in aid to countries that dont need it so we look like a rich nation, were not were second rate rapidly approaching third world if the idiots in charge of things don't stop spending and expecting those that are working to pay for it.
Tax going up to 25% soon maybe, wont that be great... with 30% plus including national insurance of your wages going direct to the government who's going to be able to afford to work?
They haven't thought of that you see, well they have really, they expect the ones who now despise people on the dole to keep working because that's what they're now doing you see, making people on the dole look evil and bad and a drain on the state that they created.
Do they make it worth while to work in the first place?
What about a free bus pass for people in work? wouldn't that ease a burden...
What about 10% off petrol and road tax if your working...
Thats one of there games, make benefits and people on them so disgusting that no sane person would ever claim them...
Keep working and pay your taxes, be proud your in work, struggling to feed your family, be proud your supporting an African presidents rebuilding of his palace, be proud your money goes to the E.U. and buys them £200 bottles of wine to have with dinner!!!
Be proud you work so our M.P's can clean their motes, be proud you pay taxes so they can travel first class.
Be proud you pay for the Royal family, Be proud your paying for tens of thousands of immigrants to come over and compete for jobs...
Be proud your contributing money to a government that's rewarding soldiers that have just finished a tour in Afghan with p45's
Do I really need to go on???

[NorthernRaider]

The only one absolute contant in all this mess is that Labour, Conservatives and Liberals are putting everyone else ahead of the ordinary hard working decent British people regardless of if they are left of centre or right of centre. Labour are as much the enemy of the ordinary man as the effing tories are.