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Introducing a new local currency after an event
20 September 2011, 10:26,
#41
RE: Introducing a new local currency after an event
the only thing with this new kind of manager would be he answers to the people he reps. and can't make the rules to suit them self.
to win the war, you must be willing to die
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20 September 2011, 10:37,
#42
RE: Introducing a new local currency after an event
But the mess we're in at the moment shows us that:
1] The people are apathetic
2] Power attracts corrupt leaders
3] When the justice system is corrupt, having one group of corrupt people answerable to another group of corrupt people doesn't work well.

We need a structure of rules that ensures fairness rather than relying on fair interpretation by corruptable individuals.
Doctor Prepper: What's the worst that could happen?
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20 September 2011, 11:26,
#43
RE: Introducing a new local currency after an event
we always need an enforcer for capitalism to work.
the other answer is just trade and swap with things you have and the other person wants.
if you dont have you dont get
or socailism helping each other
or we could become the animals we really or and use the survival of the fitest.
if i lose i won't even no because i would be dead and couldn't help any one?
without trust socioty can't work
are bankers have spent are money wastefully and with the PROTECTION of the gov. make us pay again they can't reposses the items where the lent money against because it overseas so they pick on us and pay the politians
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20 September 2011, 12:07, (This post was last modified: 21 September 2011, 08:32 by Skean Dhude.)
#44
RE: Introducing a new local currency after an event
Grumpy,

You need an enforcer for anything to work.

Socialism isn't helping one another. It is dragging everyone down to the same level. Look at every socialist country, which is all of them at the moment and look beyond the top level.

It is always survival of the fittest. We can disguise that for a while with money but socialism always runs out of other peoples money and then it is back. Just like you dry out a house on a flood plain, it just gets wet again, and again, and again.

Trust is earned. Nobody really trusts others all the way anyway. Families fight over inheritance and steal from each other so what hope do strangers have.

Bankers didn't spend our money wastefully. Politicians did. Bankers are like any business they should have been allowed to run them as they see fit and go bust but government, interfered as usual and screwed it up. Politicians owe bankers for taking the rap.

Capitalism is the only way to go. It is why the US is number one but as soon as socialists get in they screw everything up.
Skean Dhude
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It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change. - Charles Darwin
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20 September 2011, 23:39,
#45
RE: Introducing a new local currency after an event
you fraze things so much better than me.
banks should have gone bust and assest sold then throw the bosses in jail.

i knew socialism does't work like in russia and china just slaves making cheap rubbish for us to buy.
but i think working to gether to build a good society is a good place to start.
if we need to think about rebuilding the we will be living in a bad place full of wild people.
there is safety in numbers.

and trust does need to be earn through time and working together.

i think that barter towns will start first like in mad max 3 and from watching the television tonight maybe sooner?

i am a capitalist but stuck for workable ideas to restart free trade let alone new coinage
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21 September 2011, 08:41,
#46
RE: Introducing a new local currency after an event
Grumpy,

Agreed. People will help each other. They always club together and help in bad times. However, this situation is different. We are not a community. Most people are not preparing and unless you have enough to share with everyone you all die. You want to scrimp and save and then share with those that have not so you all run out? Rebuilding a decent new society will not be on a socialist basis. Sure some will start but they will be the ones with little growth and people like us won't want to live in them.

I'm not so sure you are but it does not matter. Barter will start up the first time you make friends with someone and will go from there. A new coinage will take longer but is inevitable.
Skean Dhude
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It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change. - Charles Darwin
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23 September 2011, 00:14,
#47
RE: Introducing a new local currency after an event
skean,
i have take what you have wrote and thought about it.
and had a good look at my life and my values.
i don't mind learning people how to do something but i won't be giving anyone free food.
i will offer protection for a cut of whatever is for trade and being 39 yaers old if something big did happen i guess my life expectance would go down.
so i would leave all that future thing with my kids to sort out after all it would be their world we messed this one up
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23 September 2011, 19:36,
#48
RE: Introducing a new local currency after an event
Grumpy,

Do you not feed your kids friends when they come around for the weekend? Even if it is a few sandwiches or some crisps. When you have spare and you know it is able to be replaced then you will feel differently when someone is hungry and you are feeling comfortable.

I think it is our responsability to fix the problems. We are not politicians, we cannot screw everything up and walk away and leave it for someone else to fix. I'm doing what I can in several ways, not just this site.
Skean Dhude
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It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change. - Charles Darwin
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30 September 2011, 08:51,
#49
RE: Introducing a new local currency after an event
IMHO, the best way is the way the old Indian tribes and most European tribes worked. You worked for the good of the tribe, all sharing the skills and resources, good times and bad. When it comes to wanting something from another tribe, you trade/barter for it. Horses and Livestock were used a lot for this. Another currency could be salt - The Roman Legionaires were partly paid in salt.

No money - the system doesnt work, I would not like to see its repeat again post TEOTWAWKI.
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30 September 2011, 09:12,
#50
RE: Introducing a new local currency after an event
Commodities like Salt are a good idea.

It is not money itself that is the problem. It is the people that control the money that are. When money moved to fiat then they could manipulate the system and did. When it was gold based it was less open to abuse.
Skean Dhude
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It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change. - Charles Darwin
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