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Vehicle Concealment
20 September 2013, 10:13,
#31
RE: Vehicle Concealment
HAHA, P1 you never disappoint! Hysterical, but also thought provoking.

"XI. Thou shalt not drape thy net on thy tent, for it looketh like tent draped in net." Deep!!!

This actually got me thinking about something. It's kind of an amalgamation of SD's super-tarp, and not touching the vehicle, as HL points out.

Would it not make sense to build a net structure, with the front end open, so that you can drive your vehicle into it, like LS's and BP's barn concept, but made out of camo netting and the alike? So you are able to drive your vehicle into the shelter, then close up the back end, as well as drive quickly back out of the structure.

I'm quite liking this idea.

Couple it with a little bit of digging, so that the ground is a little lower for the car to have even less of a profile, and you're good to go. Providing you have drainage for any water to run off, you will have a pretty well concealed hiding place.

Any help of hiding tracks made by your vehicle while driving into these kinds of places?
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20 September 2013, 10:30,
#32
RE: Vehicle Concealment
(20 September 2013, 10:13)Scythe13 Wrote: Would it not make sense to build a net structure, with the front end open, so that you can drive your vehicle into it, like LS's and BP's barn concept, but made out of camo netting and the alike? So you are able to drive your vehicle into the shelter, then close up the back end, as well as drive quickly back out of the structure.

Couple it with a little bit of digging, so that the ground is a little lower for the car to have even less of a profile, and you're good to go. Providing you have drainage for any water to run off, you will have a pretty well concealed hiding place.

Any help of hiding tracks made by your vehicle while driving into these kinds of places?

This is how it is usually done, depending on the direction, an opening would give a large black shadow and will be seen a long way off, more commonly you create a doorway that can be lifted,... drive out and return if needed,.... although normally the ability to drive out is for emergencies only.

Hiding tracks is never easy, and will depend on the ground you are crossing,...if it is farm land, you may be lucky enough to have tracks everywhere, so yours will not stand out.

If not then the usual training is to drive around the edge of the open space to your chosen spot, never straight across, the tracks may well be noticed, but this is how a farmer would travel, and often the edge of the field is more solid, so shows less tracks.

I do remember once when in the army on exercise,....we had to cross an open space on a frosty morning, we had no choice,... so what we did was all cross in each others tracks, so that only one track was made,... then we all got out and used our foot powder to sprinkle into the two lines that we had made, disguising the tracks.

This is only a temp measure of course, but we did find out later on after the excersise, that `enemy` the planes that had been searching for us, had passed over that spot and had failed to find us,...and by the time the sun had melted the frost, we were well gone
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20 September 2013, 10:33,
#33
RE: Vehicle Concealment
probably, eventually, any vehicle that is not under your total and continual control will be trashed for parts. anything you do will only be a temporary measure at best.
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20 September 2013, 15:24, (This post was last modified: 20 September 2013, 15:26 by Prepper1.)
#34
RE: Vehicle Concealment
Plus if yours is the only cammo "hump" around, it'll stick out like a sore thumb, ie if ts a flat field and there's a cammoed hump in the middle...
normally tanks and the like are driven into a large cut out berm, and net over that less profile if you will an less to hit as its hidden by the berm.

Sort of like hiding your car in a ditch with the net over the top...
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Normally youd use surrounding cover or vegetation as a natural hide so, that huge bramble patch can be hollowed out and the vehicle driven in...
that kinda thing.

Hiding anything in the middle of anywhere is a nono really.

Better up against a fence or stone wall or in a ditch...

look at this artillery how much it stands out in the open on its own...[Image: fires10.jpg]
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20 September 2013, 15:41,
#35
RE: Vehicle Concealment
(20 September 2013, 10:13)Scythe13 Wrote: Would it not make sense to build a net structure, with the front end open, so that you can drive your vehicle into it, like LS's and BP's barn concept, but made out of camo netting and the alike? So you are able to drive your vehicle into the shelter, then close up the back end, as well as drive quickly back out of the structure.

Any help of hiding tracks made by your vehicle while driving into these kinds of places?

Scythe, in the units I served in, exercise locations were often farmyards or hamlets and in such, we often built cam in that way. The object then was not to break up the straight lines but to make them, abutting farm buildings, so that from any distance, they appeared to be lean-to's or sheds. For these, we used painted hessian and not nets. A half-decent job with a paintbrush could be quite effective.

As for vehicle tracks, they're a great deal harder to cover than footprints and as HL said, probably the best you can do (other than staying on solid surfaces,) is to follow the edges; the hedgerows, the tree lines, the field edges - never across the open space.



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20 September 2013, 21:13,
#36
RE: Vehicle Concealment
I concour with GG, it's exactly the way we still do it old man !.

5 long poles, 5 hanging baskets (flower type) 1x large camo net, either matte navy or tan spraypaint for the non essential glass + chrome (or hessian sandbags.

Make sure you can get the vehicle out as soon as possible, also that as many approaches to your location can be observed. Don't stay with the vehicle whilst its stationary, (don't sleep in it). pitch up or put up depending on location.
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