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Economic Woes Lead (Maybe) to War?
2 February 2014, 18:53,
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Economic Woes Lead (Maybe) to War?
It remains a 'truism', that when a country faces a huge economic disaster, they usually try to start a war to divert attention. One could see the example of Argentina and the Falklands War. The current economic situation in China is very worrying and could explain the belligerent noises in the South China Sea re Japan and disputed territory.

From The Daily Telegraph (London) February 2nd 2014

"Currency crisis at Chinese banks 'could trigger global meltdown’"

A rise in foreign funding at China's banks poses a threat for international lenders . The growing problems in the Chinese banking system could spill over into a wider financial crisis, one of the most respected analysts of China’s lenders has warned.

Charlene Chu, a former senior analyst at Fitch in Beijing and now the head of Asian research at Autonomous Research, said the rapid expansion of foreign-currency borrowing meant a crisis in China’s financial system was becoming a bigger risk for international banks.

“One of the reasons why the situation in China has been so stable up to this point is that, unlike many emerging markets, there is very, very little reliance on foreign funding. As that changes, it obviously increases their vulnerability to swings in foreign investor appetite,” said Ms Chu in an interview with The Telegraph.

Ms Chu has been warning since 2009 about the growth of a shadow banking system in China that has helped fuel the credit expansion seen in the country in the wake of the Western financial crisis.

However, fears are growing that the build-up of foreign borrowing by the Chinese, particularly in US dollars, is creating an even greater build-up of risk than that seen before the crisis of 2008.

Figures published by the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) in October showed foreign currency loans booked in China, as well as cross-border borrowing by Chinese companies, had reached $880bn (£535bn) as of March 2013, from $270bn in 2009.

Analysts say this figure is now likely to exceed $1 trillion and is continuing to grow, raising the prospect of the potentially dangerous vulnerability of the Chinese financial system to a rising dollar.

“It is very hard to work out the exposures of individual banks to the Chinese financial system, but it seems to us there are some very large numbers on some of the bank’s balance sheets,” said the analyst.

“Without a doubt, that has been on the rise [foreign currency borrowing] and was really starting to grow fast in the latter half of last year and it’s only going to continue. For the time being, it is only a fraction compared to the massive size of the financial sector, but still we’re talking about a growing amount of funding coming from offshore sources,” she said.

“You look at the exposure numbers from the BIS and the Hong Kong banks . .. you’re going to encounter a few [foreign] institutions that are going to have a sizeable exposure to China.”

George Magnus, senior independent economist at UBS, said the Chinese banking system resembled that of Japan during the 1980s in the years leading up to the country’s financial crash.

“If the dollar were to appreciate it could cause problems for those banks that have borrowed in dollars. Anywhere you have a banking system that uses a non-domestic currency, there is a possibility of a mismatch that could cause issues when the value of your liabilities runs away from you,” said Mr Magnus.

The BIS figures show foreign-currency loans are already at a decade high, though the body said there was no reason this should mean there was a “currency mismatch”. "

Actually we are talking about $15 TRILLION

See ... [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/10611931/The-15-trillion-shadow-over-Chinese-banks.html [/url] for a greater run-down on this.

SO what do we do ....

My personal view is to get all your money out in cash now and hide it under your bed - When the SHTF, max out your credit cards. Now that goes against all the best advice but thats my view !
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2 February 2014, 22:20, (This post was last modified: 2 February 2014, 22:34 by Straight Shooter.)
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RE: Economic Woes Lead (Maybe) to War?
Bloody hell RS my opinion of you has done a 180 .......I think I love you even.......ok to much info.......well done! Great post ......I am now about to play dumb struck! ........ well on drums at least .....WOW ! ! !

opening a bottle of harveys bristol cream ......right now.!

Alterntive media would have got you here months ago RS .....WITH RESPECT and no piss taking meant
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3 February 2014, 10:49,
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RE: Economic Woes Lead (Maybe) to War?
Thank You SS

Alternative Media may well have got me here months ago, but I usually have AT LEAST two or more sources that are verifiable and add that to my inner sense. My first lines of mainstream sources would be the good old BBC (despite their left leaning sensibilities) (I mean Robert Peston is usually pretty good) but I also take The Daily Telegraph and for more detailed analysis, The Economist.

I usually take economic doomsayers with the required pinches of salt but certain things are beginning to stack up which worry me a great deal.

More later as I prepare for a writing day
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3 February 2014, 15:43,
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What we are seeing is the corruption that erupts every time some communist country discovers capitalism and their underground system of bribes and payoffs flourishes with a new influx of money and credit.

This is nothing compared to the disaster that will ensue once the Chinese have milked the world of all the investment capitol they can and then announce that they will once more nationalize everything inside their borders.
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3 February 2014, 19:21,
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Mort, have you seen the FTSE close and the DJIA for today? Now I know why those bankers have been committing suicide. Methinks the destruction has started...
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