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Water collection options
23 April 2014, 07:32,
#11
RE: Water collection options
(23 April 2014, 05:49)Mortblanc Wrote: Have you learned nothing Grasshopper?

You buy the water feature kit and give it to her as a present doing all the hard work of installation for atta'boy points!

I like your thinking Smile
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23 April 2014, 18:10,
#12
RE: Water collection options
(23 April 2014, 07:32)Smiffy Wrote:
(23 April 2014, 05:49)Mortblanc Wrote: Have you learned nothing Grasshopper?

You buy the water feature kit and give it to her as a present doing all the hard work of installation for atta'boy points!

I like your thinking Smile

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14 June 2018, 17:54,
#13
RE: Water collection
Our water backup after the jerrycans are our three waterbutts.

As our pond needed topping up i used the opportunity to empty the waterbutts and was surprised by the amount of muck in them.

So i jet washed as much of the bungalow roof as i could reach, then cleaned out the gutters, down spouts and rain diverters then washed out the waterbutts.

Then i tipped a couple of litres of THIN bleach in each and sloshed it around, will leave it in for a couple of days before draining out. I needed to replace the bleach anyway as i’ve had it in stock over six months.

After flushing out the waterbutts i will half fill them with fresh water, rain is forecast, when full this gives us 600 litres of backup, that still leaves us the pond as a last resort.

We keep six litre bottles of thin bleach for bulk water sterilisation, as well as tablets.
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14 June 2018, 19:30,
#14
RE: Water collection options
Pete, do you use the bleach just for cleaning/steralising the jerry cans or do you add it to the water as a means of steralising the water itself? If so, in what quantity/ratio?
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14 June 2018, 20:43,
#15
RE: Water collection options
(14 June 2018, 19:30)LAC Wrote: Pete, do you use the bleach just for cleaning/steralising the jerry cans or do you add it to the water as a means of steralising the water itself? If so, in what quantity/ratio?

Hi LAC, to sterilise water use eight drops of bleach to a gallon of water (must be thin bleach,the cheap stuff, it’s sodium hypochlorite with nothing added), i got a couple of eye droppers from a local pharmacy.

Run the water into a jerrycan ( filter if necessary) add the bleach and shake gently then leave for half an hour. If there is a slight smell of chlorine all should be fine and safe, if no smell add a little more and leave another half hour, this is in case the bleach has lost some of its strength.

Treated water soon looses its smell when you come to use it and as the last bleach i bought was about 40 pence a litre it’s a good backup if you’ve no oasis tablets at hand.
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14 June 2018, 20:48,
#16
RE: Water collection options
(14 June 2018, 19:30)LAC Wrote: Pete, do you use the bleach just for cleaning/steralising the jerry cans or do you add it to the water as a means of steralising the water itself? If so, in what quantity/ratio?

https://www.clorox.com/how-to/disinfecti...ing-water/

The treatments described below work only to remove bacteria or viruses from water. If you suspect the water is unsafe because of chemicals, oils, poisonous substances, sewage or other contaminants, do not drink the water. Don't drink water that is dark colored, has an odor or contains solid materials. The best source of drinking water during an emergency is water you have stored with your emergency supplies.

Store one gallon of water per person per day--enough for at least three days.
Store-bought, factory-sealed bottled water is best. Check for an expiration date and replace as needed.

If you choose to fill your own water containers:

Collect the water from a safe supply.

Store water in thoroughly washed plastic containers such as soft drink bottles. You can also purchase food-grade plastic buckets or drums.

Seal water containers tightly, label with date, and store in a cool, dark place.
Replace water every six months. Never reuse a container that held toxic substances such as pesticides, chemicals or oil.

Purifying by boiling - If your tap water is unsafe, boiling is the best method to kill disease-causing organisms.

If tap water is unavailable, the following may be considered as potential water sources. Water taken from these sources should always be boiled or chemically treated before drinking.

Rainwater
Lakes
Rivers and streams
Natural springs
Ponds

Caution: Most chemical pollutants will not be removed by boiling.

Cloudy water should be filtered before boiling. Filter cloudy water using coffee filters, paper towels, cheesecloth or a cotton plug in a funnel.

Bring the water to a rolling boil for at least one full minute. Let the water cool before drinking.

Add two drops of household bleach per gallon to maintain water quality while in storage. Purifying by adding liquid chlorine bleach such as Clorox or Purex containing berteen 5.25 percent and 8.25 percent sodium hypochlorite. Avoid using bleaches that contain perfumes, dyes and other additives. Be sure to read the label.
Cloudy water should be filtered before adding bleach.

Place the water in a clean container. Add the amount of bleach according to the table below. Mix thoroughly and let stand for at least 60 minutes before drinking.

Treating water with household bleach containing 5.25-8.25 percent chlorine

Volume of Water to be Treated_Bleach Solution to Add
1 quart/1 liter_______________5 drops
1/2 gallon/2 quarts/2 liters_____10 drops
1 gallon____________________1/4 teaspoon
5 gallons___________________1 teaspoon
10 gallons__________________2 teaspoons

Caution: Bleach will not kill some disease-causing organisms commonly found in surface water. Bleach will not remove chemical pollutants.

Prior to addition of the bleach, it’s important to remove all suspended material from collected water by letting it settle to the bottom or by filtration. This means that after you collect some water that hasn’t been treated, you need to let it sit long enough to let any debris settle to the bottom of the container.

Next, decant the clarified contaminated water into a clean container, then add the bleach. Use the table below to determine how much bleach to add—it depends on how much water you are treating. Allow the treated water to stand for 30 minutes. Properly treated water should have a slight chlorine odor.

If there’s no chlorine odor, then you need to repeat the treatment. Just add the same amount of bleach, and wait for another 15 minutes. Check again for the chlorine odor before drinking the water.

Here are some other important things to remember.

DO NOT use the Scented bleaches, High Efficiency bleach, Splash-Less bleach, etc. l.

Use bleach that was purchased in the last 4 months.

If the water you want to treat is cloudy and you can’t decant or filter it, add twice the amount of bleach recommended above.

Check with your water service provider to confirm that your tap water is safe to drink.

If you stocked up on bottled water, save the empty bottles!! You can use some of them to collect untreated water, and others to store the water you treat.

Read more at https://www.clorox.com/how-to/disinfecti...ing-water/

73 de KE4SKY
In
"Almost Heaven" West Virginia
USA
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14 June 2018, 21:12,
#17
RE: Water collection options
Excellent post CH, everyone please note, do not take chances with water, if TSHTF contaminated water will be the biggest killer.
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14 June 2018, 22:54,
#18
RE: Water collection options
(14 June 2018, 21:12)Pete Grey Wrote: Excellent post CH, everyone please note, do not take chances with water, if TSHTF contaminated water will be the biggest killer.

Additional information on SODIS (UV sterilization treatment)

Solar Disinfection | The Safe Water System | CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/safewater/solardisinfection.html
May 2, 2014 - Solar Disinfection [PDF – 2 pages]. Solar disinfection (SODIS) was developed in the 1980s to inexpensively disinfect water used for oral ...
[PDF]Household Water Treatment Solar Disinfection Household ... - CDC

https://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/dfwed/PDFs/So...-508c-.pdf
investigate and implement SODIS as an household water treatment option to prevent diarrhea in developing countries. Users of SODIS fill. 0.3-2.0 liter plastic ...
Water Disinfection for Travelers - Chapter 2 - 2018 Yellow Book ...
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/yellowbook/...-travelers

Provided by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). ... the efficacy and optimal procedures of the solar disinfection (SODIS) technique.
[PDF]Preventing Diarrheal Disease in Developing Countries: Proven ... - CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/safewater/publicatio...proven.pdf

Solar Disinfection – SODIS. SODIS uses increased temperature, UV light, and oxidative chemistry to inactive disease- causing organisms. Users are trained to ...
SODIS: Training material
https://www.sodis.ch/methode/anwendung/a...l/index_EN

Jan 12, 2016 - USAID / CDC (Center for Disease Control and Prevention). Household Water Treatment Options in Developing Countries: Solar Disinfection ...
SODIS: SODIS METHOD
https://www.sodis.ch/methode/index_EN

May 24, 2011 - "Solar water disinfection" - SODIS for short - thus offers a solution for preventing diarrhoea, one of the most common causes of death among ...
Sustainability of Solar Disinfection to Provide Safe Drinking Water in ...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3151198/

by M Halperin - ‎2011 - ‎Cited by 5 - ‎Related articles
Solar disinfection (SODIS) is a simple, low-cost technology for disinfecting ..... Available from: URL: http://www.cdc.gov/safewater/publication...proven.pdf.

73 de KE4SKY
In
"Almost Heaven" West Virginia
USA
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15 June 2018, 08:04,
#19
RE: Water collection options
Great info PG and CH, cheers.
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15 June 2018, 09:46,
#20
RE: Water collection options
Personally I still put all drinking water through a ceramic filter - have you seen what comes out of taps?
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