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Post Brexit European "Superstate" To Be Unveiled, Sovereignty Forfeited
28 June 2016, 15:30,
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Was this the intent all along? Did you all just throw "the wrench into the works"? Good job, cousins!

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/6...ate-Brexit

European SUPERSTATE to be unveiled: EU nations 'to be morphed into one' post-Brexit
By Nick Gutteridge PUBLISHED: 11:01, Mon, Jun 27, 2016
UPDATED: 17:20, Mon, Jun 27, 2016


EUROPEAN political chiefs are to take advantage of Brexit by unveiling their long-held plan to morph the continent’s countries into one GIANT SUPERSTATE, it has emerged today.

German Angela Merkel met with European heads today at the EU summit.

The foreign ministers of France and Germany are due to reveal a blueprint to effectively do away with individual member states in what is being described as an “ultimatum”.

Under the radical proposals EU countries will lose the right to have their own army, criminal law, taxation system or central bank, with all those powers being transferred to Brussels.

Controversially, member states would also lose what few controls they have left over their own borders, including the procedure for admitting and relocating refugees.

The plot has sparked fury and panic in Poland - a traditional ally of Britain in the fight against federalism - after being leaked to Polish news channel TVP Info.

Polish politicians say the plans include loss of control of a number of key policy areas.

Polish foreign minister Witold Waszczykowski has blasted the plan.

The public broadcaster reports that the bombshell proposal will be presented to a meeting of the Visegrad group of countries - made up of Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovakia - by German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier later today.

Excerpts of the nine-page report were published today as the leaders of Germany, France and Italy met in Berlin for Brexit crisis talks.

In the preamble to the text the two ministers write: "Our countries share a common destiny and a common set of values?? that give rise to an even closer union between our citizens. We will therefore strive for a political union in Europe and invite the next Europeans to participate in this venture."

The revelations come just days after Britain shook the Brussels establishment by voting to leave the European Union in a move some have predicted could leave to the break-up of the EU.

A number of member states are deeply unhappy about the creeping federalism of the European project with anti-EU sentiments running high in eastern Europe, Scandinavia and France.

Opponents of the EU have warned of its ambitions to create a superstate.

Britain voted to leave the European Union in an historic referendum last Thursday.

Responding to the plot Polish Foreign Minister Witold Waszczykowski raged: "This is not a good solution, of course, because from the time the EU was invented a lot has changed.

“The mood in European societies is different. Europe and our voters do not want to give the Union over into the hands of technocrats.

“Therefore, I want to talk about this, whether this really is the right recipe right now in the context of a Brexit."

There are deep divides at the heart of the EU at the moment over how to proceed with the project in light of the Brexit vote.

Some figures have cautioned against trying to force through further political integration, warning that to do so against the wishes of the European people will only fuel further Eurosceptic feeling.

A few weeks before the Brexit vote European Council president Donald Tusk warned that European citizens did not share the enthusiasm of some of their leaders for “a utopia of Europe without conflicting interests and ambitions, a utopia of Europe imposing its own values on the external world, a utopia of Euro-Asian unity”.

He added: “Increasingly louder are those who question the very principle of a united Europe. The spectre of a break-up is haunting Europe and a vision of a federation doesn’t seem to me to be the best answer to it.”

His view was backed up by the leader of the eurozone countries, Dutch politician Jerome Dijsselbloem, who added: “In the eurozone some are pushing for a completion of the monetary union by creating a full political union, a euro area economic government or even a euro budget… to me it is obvious.

“We need to strengthen what we have and finish it, but let’s not build more extensions to the European house while it is so unstable.”

Meanwhile Lorenzo Condign, the former director general of Italy’s treasury, has said it is nearly impossible to see Europe opting for more integration at such a time of upheaval.

He said: “It seems difficult to imagine that the rest of the EU will close ranks and move in the direction of greater integration quickly. Simply, there is no political will."

“Indeed, the risk is exactly the opposite - namely that centrifugal forces will prevail and make integration even more difficult.”

But others see the Brexit vote as an opportunity to push ahead with the European elite’s long-cherished dream of creating a United States of Europe.

Spain’s foreign minister Jose Manuel Garcia-Margallo has called for “more Europe” whilst Italy’s finance minister, Carlo Padoan, is advocating a common budget for the eurozone states.

And Emmanuel Macron, France’s economy minister, wants to go even further and set up a common eurozone treasury which would oversee the permanent transfer of funds from wealthier northern Europe to shore up Mediterranean economies.
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28 June 2016, 16:20,
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RE: Post Brexit European "Superstate" To Be Unveiled, Sovereignty Forfeited
For more fun, watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayojl7Op37A
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28 June 2016, 17:14,
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RE: Post Brexit European "Superstate" To Be Unveiled, Sovereignty Forfeited
In my opinion:

Just confirms that you cannot hope to get a good deal from within. The corrupt and outmoded must be discarded in order to usher in a better new. Love Europe but dislike the EU. Powerful natural forces are at work now, and it now seems obvious that those wishing to maintain their cosy little EU gravy train existence are the ones preventing us moving forward in the spirit of mutually beneficial trade and free enterprise. In the words of Ayn Rand:

"A businessman’s success depends on his intelligence, his knowledge, his productive ability, his economic judgment—and on the voluntary agreement of all those he deals with: his customers, his suppliers, his employees, his creditors or investors. A bureaucrat’s success depends on his political pull. A businessman cannot force you to buy his product; if he makes a mistake, he suffers the consequences; if he fails, he takes the loss. A bureaucrat forces you to obey his decisions, whether you agree with him or not—and the more advanced the stage of a country’s statism, the wider and more discretionary the powers wielded by a bureaucrat. If he makes a mistake, you suffer the consequences; if he fails, he passes the loss on to you, in the form of heavier taxes."
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28 June 2016, 17:45,
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RE: Post Brexit European "Superstate" To Be Unveiled, Sovereignty Forfeited
The Telegraph takes a different view:

UK vote raises fears of a tsunami of EU membership referendums

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/...u-members/

A survey published on Monday by the European Council on Foreign Relations (ECFR) found that these parties are currently calling for a total of 33 popular referendums in the coming year.

The parties have disparate motivations and sit on both sides of the political spectrum, but they share a common sense of discontent about EU austerity and a nationalist bent that often favours Islamophobic and anti-immigrant rhetoric.

Some, like France’s National Front (FN) and Netherlands Party for Freedom (PVV) want full ‘in-out’ referendums like Britain, while others, such as the ruling party in Hungary, want to attack Brussels by polling specific issues like the deeply resented mandatory refugee quotas.

As Brussels braces to deal with Brexit – a move that is already stressing Spanish and Italian banks - the government of the remaining 27 EU member states are trying to formulate a programme of reforms that turn the rising tide of anti-EU opinion.

But the waters are rising fast. A recent survey by the Pew Research Centre found that only 38 per cent of France had a favourable view of the EU, marking an astonishing negative shift in attitudes towards Brussels since the 2009 financial crisis that has been mirrored to varying degrees all across Europe.

A poll last month by Ipsos-MORI found that nearly half of voters in eight big European Union countries want to be able to vote on whether to remain members of the bloc, with a third saying they would opt to leave, if given the choice.

Here we look, country by country, at Europe’s most imperiled member states, assessing the strength of the Eurosceptic forces and the ability of establishment parties to constrain them...

Although the Netherlands is a founder EU member and currently holds the EU presidency, a June poll showed 54 per cent of people want a referendum on EU membership, while 48 per cent would vote to leave and 45 per cent to remain...

Britain’s historic Brexit vote has buoyed sovereigntists and the far-Right in France, where Euroscepticism is riding even higher than in the UK. Marine Le Pen, the leader of the Front National instantly leapt on the referendum across the Channel as justification for a Frexit vote. "Victory for Freedom!” she tweeted minutes after the vote, “As I have been asking for years we must now have the same referendum in France and EU countries.”

Europe will be at the heart of the next presidential election in April 2017 with Ms Le Pen – who polls suggest will reach the second-round run-off – already pledging to become "Madame Frexit" and call a referendum on France's EU membership within six months, if she wins.

That remains a big ‘if’, since France’s mainstream parties are likely to unite against her, but her claims echo a rising groundswell of Euroscepticism in France, where a protracted economic crisis and anger over immigration have led an even more categoric rejection of the EU than in Britain.

A pan-European survey by the Pew Research Center released ahead of the Brexit vote found that 61 per cent of French voters have an “unfavourable” view, compared to 48 per cent in the UK.

A clear majority is opposed to “ever closer union” and wants powers returned to the French parliament, a finding that sits badly with the insistence by President Francois Hollande that “more Europe” is the answer to the EU’s problems...

Much anti-EU sentiment in France comes from the working-class French electorate who feel the whole EU project has been hijacked by “ultra-liberal” technocrats and want to see it go the other way.

They have vented their fury to the world during a string of nationwide strikes, blockages and scenes of urban unrest, leading Jean-Luc Mélenchon, French firebrand leftist MEP, to predict that France would have voted to leave the EU if asked.

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28 June 2016, 19:21,
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RE: Post Brexit European "Superstate" To Be Unveiled, Sovereignty Forfeited
Hollande is toast! He is the most unpopular President in French history and his rating in the polls has plummeted. The French are deeply unhappy with the status quo, and next year's elections should be very interesting. Le Pen is flying in the polls, and so far only the horror of the French "elite" at the possibility of having a FN leader has stalled her. It will not stop her for long.
The season for strikes in France is almost over for now - holidays are almost upon them - normal service will be resumed later this year, no doubt!
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