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Russian Threat etc as of 9Oct16
11 October 2016, 19:43,
#21
RE: Russian Threat etc as of 9Oct16
River song ,get ready for what ,thermal nuclear war ,think you all should go out side and look at the pretty lights ,because with Russia's bombs the U.K. Will be veporised ,but if you do manage to live . we will not ,come up to what ?a slow death. I think you are kidding you self but hay what do I know
just read alas Babylon ,so im going to get more salt!!!!
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11 October 2016, 20:47,
#22
RE: Russian Threat etc as of 9Oct16
How dramatic we are today!

And I thought you folks were looking for a press of the reset button, return to the old ways, reduction of the population through plague and famine (as long as it is not YOU dying of course) rebuilding a Utopian dream.

After all the projected death rate in nuclear war is only 90%, so 10% will pull through and that will put the world back to the population level of 1800ad world wide, which seems to be where everyone wants to start from anyway. The long lost horse powered 19th century.
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11 October 2016, 21:39,
#23
RE: Russian Threat etc as of 9Oct16
Are you watching Gregory Peck in On The Beach again?
or The Road?

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11 October 2016, 22:29,
#24
RE: Russian Threat etc as of 9Oct16
Not sure if you approve or not MB ? but one thing we can depend on....when you mark our papers ....there will be some remark scribbled at the bottom of our test sheet pointing out our total lack or grasp of historical...or current thinking or even understanding ....that's why we love you.....and hate you .....all in one hit......your a fucking enigma lol.............. tip of the day......passing comment whilst looking down belittles the efforts of many who try...to teach ....or pass knowledge ....lead ....by example....
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11 October 2016, 22:50,
#25
RE: Russian Threat etc as of 9Oct16
http://observer.com/2016/10/obama-blows-...inst-nato/

Obama Blows Off Putin, Encouraging Kremlin Aggression Against NATO
U.S. President just ignored his Cuban Missile Crisis
By John R. Schindler

Late last week, Vladimir Putin went all-in and executed the brazen geopolitical move of transporting nuclear-capable ballistic missiles to Kaliningrad, the Russian exclave on the Baltic Sea north of Poland that’s surrounded by NATO countries...

...the Kremlin’s deployment of Iskander missiles, what NATO calls SS-26s, into Kaliningrad is a direct challenge to the Atlantic Alliance, since it puts all of Poland and the Baltic republics into range for a sudden nuclear strike. An Iskander’s flight time from Kaliningrad to Warsaw is just two minutes, so NATO would functionally have no warning.

In military terms, this is a game-changer for the Baltic region. Politically, it’s deeply destabilizing too. It’s nothing less than a regional version of the Cuban Missile Crisis, with Moscow placing nuclear missiles close to the Western camp for strategic advantage. Why Putin would do this when Obama has just three months left in the White House is the key question—and answering it reveals disturbing truths...

This constitutes a direct challenge to Washington by Moscow—and by Vladimir Putin to Barack Obama, personally. The KGB officer in the Kremlin is seeking to get in one last, grand strategic humiliation for our president before he leaves office. And why not? Such reckless antics have worked well for the Russians so far, given Obama’s preference to avert eyes and hope for the best whenever Moscow misbehaves.

The Kremlin’s no longer hiding its actions, even when they are profoundly destabilizing to European security. Knowing that President Obama will do nothing, Moscow is now openly boasting of its Iskander gambit. Stating the move is “no secret” and just part of military drills, Kremlin media isn’t shying away from the story.

A Russian defense ministry spokesman on Saturday indicated that they want the Americans to know about this aggressive chess move. “Nobody made a big secret out of the transportation of the system onboard the freighter Ambal,” stated General Igor Konashenkov, who added that one of the Iskander-M systems had been left exposed on the freighter’s deck “on purpose” when the Russians knew an American spy satellite would be flying overhead.

We are in a dangerous period between now and January 20, when the Russian bear feels—not unreasonably—he can get away with whatever he wants, without consequence.

Even for the honeybadger in the Kremlin, this is a brazen act, although officially Russia has portrayed its Iskander deployment to Kaliningrad as no big deal. Frants Klintsevich, one of the Kremlin’s top security officials (he was the person who publicly admitted in June that Edward Snowden is an agent of Russian intelligence), downplayed the whole thing. Neighboring states like Poland and Lithuania “should not fear” the move because it is “part of a drill” for the Russian military which, Klintsevich added, are “not at war” with anyone.

Warsaw and Vilnius, who know their eastern neighbor very well, are not reassured by such Russian pleasantries about their aggressive move on NATO’s doorstep. “The deployment not only increases tensions in the region, but also possibly violates international treaties which limit deployment of ballistic missiles,” explained Linas Linkevičius, Lithuania’s foreign minister. “We will use all channels available to not only raise this question, but to demand that international agreements are adhered to,” he added.

Poland’s defense minister, Antoni Macierewicz, was equally forthright in his statement regarding the Iskander deployment on his country’s border: “The Russian Federation’s recent actions give cause for utmost concern.” In private, Polish defense officials have expressed real worries, rejecting Kremlin excuses that this move is “just a drill.”

“Putin’s playing for real now,” explained a senior defense official in Warsaw, who indicated that his country’s military and intelligence moves in response to Putin’s Iskander gambit are “appropriate to the new situation.” The problem in Warsaw isn’t just Putin, whose bad behavior Poles now see as part of NATO’s “new normal” on the Alliance’s eastern flank—but President Obama, who is a no-show in this hour of crisis.

Indeed, four days into Putin’s Cuban Missile Crisis on the Baltic Sea, our president [Obama] remains invisible. There has been no public statement on the Iskander deployment from either the White House or the Pentagon. The U.S. military has made some quiet moves in response to the Russian move, including flights by our spy planes over the Baltic to monitor Kremlin moves. However, the lack of any public support or demonstrations of NATO solidarity by Washington right now is deeply troubling to our allies in Eastern Europe, most of whom had minimal confidence in Obama’s courage even before his latest no-show.

Vladimir Putin is no madman, rather an opportunist. He will get away with what NATO and especially the United States—who in military terms are vastly more powerful than Russia—allow him to. Barack Obama seems to think that letting the Kremlin do whatever it wishes will bring peace and stability. Ukraine and Syria tragically demonstrate that Obama’s laissez-faire attitude towards Putin beings anything but peace, yet it seems highly unlikely that our president will grow a backbone with just three months left in office.

We are in a dangerous period between now and January 20, when the Russian bear feels—not unreasonably—that he can get away with whatever he wants, without consequence. That’s not true, of course. Privately, President Obama has expressed to our NATO allies facing Russia exactly where his “redlines” are vis-à-vis the Kremlin.

Our allies, however, scarcely believe Obama, and who can blame them? “We saw what happened with his ‘redline’ in Syria,” quipped a NATO senior official: “Putin won.” We can only hope that the Kremlin believes in Obama’s Eastern European “redlines” more than defense professionals in Poland and the Baltics do. Deterrence works, but only when it’s credible—on all sides. President Obama needs to get off the golf course—where he is today—and publicly reassure our NATO allies if we expect to prevent more of Putin’s dangerous antics.

Nuclear weapons have now entered Putin’s cat-and-mouse game that his Kremlin is waging for political control over Eastern Europe. Moscow’s Iskander dice-roll has opened up a new, dangerous phase of this potentially lethal match. News today that the mayor of St. Petersburg, Putin’s hometown, has approved bread rations in the event of war give a worrying indication of the Russian mindset right now. January 20 cannot get here soon enough.
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John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he’s also been a Navy officer and a War College professor. He’s published four books and is on Twitter at @20committee.

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12 October 2016, 05:39,
#26
RE: Russian Threat etc as of 9Oct16
What is the difference between having these missiles stationed on the island and having them situated in a missile submarine one mile off the coast of the island?

I agree with about nothing Obama does, foreign or domestic, but this situation is only an issue in the imaginations of those that do not realize there are missile subs cruising all over the world two or three miles off your national coast. It is not worth a confrontation or a response to the provocation. You just move a few anti-missile defense units to that area and move along.

Thanks for the tip SS but I was a "polite teacher" for 35 years and no one is paying me for the information transfer any more. Fact is I erased half the post before I submitted it in the attempt to avoid insulting the entire island.
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12 October 2016, 08:43,
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MB is Wright,don't you think we have our subs off the coast of Russia,the range of these is mind blowing ,it's all war games ,all have been doing it for years ,USA have subs off our coast we have subs off the coast of USA
just read alas Babylon ,so im going to get more salt!!!!
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12 October 2016, 18:56,
#28
RE: Russian Threat etc as of 9Oct16
Can we please all just calm down a bit. Yes, it is a bit tense (globally) at the moment, but it is probable that things will steady a bit, and in all honestly there is not a lot any of us can do in any event. What are we all prepping for anyway? BB is right - submarines are on patrol at all times, and it is normal behaviour.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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12 October 2016, 22:13,
#29
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I have been checking into some of this and now I am concerned.

Not over the situation, that is simply a comedy routine, and I am now worried about the after effects.

Take radiation poisoning as an example.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-condi...n-20022901

I am an old guy, I have all of the symptoms described at one time or another, in varying intensity and also sometimes together and in assorted combinations. Plus I am as bald as a doorknob so the hair falling out is not a valid indicator for me.

So how do I prepare for my eminent death, which could be in two or three days, 6 weeks or 10 years depending on if the device blows up 1 mile from me or 20 miles down the road???

anyone remember the old "circle of death" charts they used to hand out to scare everyone in grammar school sh!tle$$.

Inner circle everyone vaporized, second circle live for a week,,,,,all the way out to the circle where all your babies have two heads and the canned goods with fallout dust on then give you cancer.

I remember some British CD films where they were making fallout shelters from the living room furniture and mattresses!
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12 October 2016, 23:04,
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For anyone over the age of 65, the best treatment for radiation exposure is single malt whisky and cigars. Recommended dosage is a pint of spirits per day and one cigar. Stock your shelter with a 30-day supply. When the whisky is gone it is safe to leave your bunker.

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