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Our deepest sympathies...
24 May 2017, 15:53,
#11
RE: Our deepest sympathies...
What I REALLY think is that political correctness is a sign of weakness.

No further discussion is needed. We must agree to disagree.

(24 May 2017, 09:51)Straight Shooter Wrote: So Charles ....what on earth have we in the west ever done to them to deserve such a sick attack on kids in Manchester ? moreover who are really responsible? you would think we have bombed their kids with drones for goodness sake.

The thing is Charles if we in the west make it our biz to invade sovereign countries around the globe and destabilise them with impunity under the respectable flag of weapons of mass destruction and terrorism.....guess what......those countries and people get a bit pissed and some of us here get even more pissed with LIES OF MASS DESTRUCTION...

So i ask you Charles ....without the use of links....what do you really think ? just you

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24 May 2017, 16:39,
#12
RE: Our deepest sympathies...
I'm not in agreement with HP on our politicians being the cause. They are just the latest, or should I say were.

Thanks for the sympathy Jonas. Our two countries have close tied despite the massive differences.

From what I am reading there are a lot of people now speaking out about our reactions. Candle Lit Vigils, that will teach them. PC stuff isn't working time we stopped listening to quislings and sympathisers.

Finally, the tide is turning. Took long enough.
Skean Dhude
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It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change. - Charles Darwin
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24 May 2017, 17:23,
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(24 May 2017, 16:39)Skean Dhude Wrote: ...
From what I am reading there are a lot of people now speaking out about our reactions. Candle Lit Vigils, that will teach them. PC stuff isn't working time we stopped listening to quislings and sympathisers. Finally, the tide is turning. Took long enough.

Failure to connect "the dots":

Neighbors said Abedi had grown a beard and began to wear religious dress in recent months and was seen praying on the street. He had hung flags and banners from windows at his home.

Abedi was known to the security services as an associate of Raphael Hostey, 24, also from Manchester, who became a prolific recruiter for ISIS after travelling to Syria.

ISIS claimed the attack had been carried out by one of its fighters and promised more carnage but investigators have also not ruled out the possibility of an al-Qaeda link.

Police and intelligence agencies are trying to establish whether Salman Abedi received terrorist training at a jihadist camp in the North African country where ISIS and al-Qa’ida have allied to fight government forces.

A school friend told The Times that Abedi, a Manchester-born university dropout of Libyan descent, returned in the past week. “He went to Libya three weeks ago and came back recently, like days ago,” the friend said.

His older brother was the more outspoken of the boys. All of the Abedi children were born in south Manchester to a family of Libyan immigrants.

At Didsbury mosque where Abedi was a regular, His father was a well-known figure who was reportedly responsible for the call to prayer. His sister Jomana, who was a careers ambassador at school, said she had worked at the mosque from 2013 on.

Hmmmm....

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25 May 2017, 17:02,
#14
RE: Our deepest sympathies...
A study of the life of Mohammad will give you an idea of why!
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25 May 2017, 17:57,
#15
RE: Our deepest sympathies...
Excellent article with which I agree completely, which comes from a credible UK source:

The Manchester bombing - Don’t give the jihadists what they want

Britain should ignore siren calls to lock up and tag people it suspects of becoming radicals

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21...na/33652/n

...IS has said that it wants to force sympathetic Muslims out of a “greyzone” in which they do not fully embrace the jihadists’ “caliphate” because they still feel loyalty to the country where they live. If so, IS can use extreme violence to provoke an official clampdown and to feed the indiscriminate suspicion of Muslims. With repeated attacks in France over the past two years and horrific cruelty this week, IS may be trying to trigger an anti-Muslim backlash that it can exploit to drive sympathisers into its arms.

The reaction in Britain to the Manchester bombing is a good way to thwart IS’s plans. A ritual has grown up after terrorist attacks that includes vigils, memorials and testimonials. It lets people express their collective grief in a secular society. It also gives Muslim groups a chance to distance themselves in public from jihadists and for other civic leaders to say that the threat from IS does not come from Islam in general. That sends a signal to Muslims and non-Muslims that now, of all times, they must be tolerant. It is precisely what IS does not want to hear.

Yet if IS succeeds in staging repeated attacks in Britain, this consensus will be at risk—as in France, which is under a state of emergency. Even now, some commentators are calling for terrorist suspects to be locked up or electronically tagged. That would be a mistake. To punish suspects who face no criminal charges would illegally single out Muslims from any other group. IS would have precisely the recruiting message it wants.

In the past 20 months the intelligence services have busted at least 12 plots. They are not asking for new powers. The government has put aside money for more staff. With this attack, as any other, there have been mistakes and missed leads. The security services must learn from them.

But the focus should also be on stopping sympathisers being drawn into IS’s orbit. In Britain that is the job of Prevent, a government scheme to counter radicalisation of all kinds. Propaganda is scrubbed from social media and counter-propaganda put in its place. Teachers are trained to spot would-be jihadists. Prevent is not perfect. It has been criticised as heavy-handed and vague. But the scheme has cut the numbers of young people going to the Middle East to fight. Now more than ever, when another British-born Muslim has struck his homeland, it needs refining and strengthening.

This article appeared in the Leaders section of the print edition under the headline "Almost is never enough"

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25 May 2017, 18:52,
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You really don't know the spirit of the people in the UK Charles
ATB
Harry
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25 May 2017, 18:56,
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http://www.wittyprofiles.com/q/6887463 this is more us Smile
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Harry
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