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OK hows this for a PMR 446 - NorthernRaider - 4 November 2012
I've mentioned this unit before its the INTEK MT 50 50, its a PMR 446 radio that once again can easily be modded by snipping a wire link to give you a full 4 watts, and loads of extra channels ( see list below) Roger Bleep AND VOICE scrambler
8 PMR channel
69 LPD channels.
Worthy of experimentation
INTEK MT 5050 FREQUENCY LIST
TOTAL : 99 CHANNELS LPD433
30 CHANNELS PMR446
20 CHANNELS LPD433/PMR446 (SEMI-DUPLEX)
LPD433 BAND 69 CHANNELS +
CHANNEL FREQUENCY (RX/TX) DISPLAY
NUMBER (MHz) READING
01 433.07500 01
02 433.10000 02
03 433.12500 03
04 433.15000 04
05 433.17500 05
06 433.20000 06
07 433.22500 07
08 433.25000 08
09 433.27500 09
10 433.30000 10
11 433.32500 11
12 433.35000 12
13 433.37500 13
14 433.40000 14
15 433.42500 15
16 433.45000 16
17 433.47500 17
18 433.50000 18
19 433.52500 19
20 433.55000 20
21 433.57500 21
22 433.60000 22
23 433.62500 23
24 433.65000 24
25 433.67500 25
26 433.70000 26
27 433.72500 27
28 433.75000 28
29 433.77500 29
30 433.80000 30
31 433.82500 31
32 433.85000 32
33 433.87500 33
34 433.90000 34
35 433.92500 35
36 433.95000 36
37 433.97500 37
38 434.00000 38
39 434.02500 39
40 434.05000 40
41 434.07500 41
42 434.10000 42
Intek MT 5050 Frequency List Page 1 of 5
LPD433 BAND 69 CHANNELS +
CHANNEL FREQUENCY (RX/TX) DISPLAY
NUMBER (MHz) READING
43 434.12500 43
44 434.15000 44
45 434.17500 45
46 434.20000 46
47 434.22500 47
48 434.25000 48
49 434.27500 49
50 434.30000 50
51 434.32500 51
52 434.35000 52
53 434.37500 53
54 434.40000 54
55 434.42500 55
56 434.45000 56
57 434.47500 57
58 434.50000 58
59 434.52500 59
60 434.55000 60
61 434.57500 61
62 434.60000 62
63 434.62500 63
64 434.65000 64
65 434.67500 65
66 434.70000 66
67 434.72500 67
68 434.75000 68
69 434.77500 69
Intek MT 5050 Frequency List Page 2 of 5
LPD433 BAND cotd.
ADDITIONAL CHANNELS SIMPLEX +
CHANNEL FREQUENCY (RX/TX) DISPLAY
NUMBER (MHz) READING
70 434.80000 70
71 434.82500 71
72 434.85000 72
73 434.87500 73
74 434.90000 74
75 434.92500 75
76 434.95000 76
77 434.97500 77
78 435.00000 78
79 435.02500 79
80 435.05000 80
81 435.07500 81
82 435.10000 82
83 435.12500 83
84 435.15000 84
85 435.17500 85
86 435.20000 86
87 435.22500 87
88 435.25000 88
89 435.27500 89
90 435.30000 90
91 435.32500 91
92 435.35000 92
93 435.37500 93
94 435.40000 94
95 435.42500 95
96 435.45000 96
97 435.47500 97
98 435.50000 98
99 435.52500 99
Intek MT 5050 Frequency List Page 3 of 5
PMR446 BAND 8 CHANNELS +
CHANNEL FREQUENCY (RX/TX) DISPLAY
NUMBER (MHz) READING
01 446.00625 P1
02 446.01875 P2
03 446.03125 P3
04 446.04375 P4
05 446.05625 P5
06 446.06875 P6
07 446.08125 P7
08 446.09375 P8
ADDITIONAL CHANNELS SIMPLEX +
09 446.10625 P9
10 446.11875 P0
11 446.13125 H1
12 446.14375 H2
13 446.15625 H3
14 446.16875 H4
15 446.18125 H5
16 446.19375 H6
17 446.20625 H7
18 446.21875 H8
19 446.23125 H9
20 446.24375 H0
21 445.99375 L1
22 445.98125 L2
23 445.96875 L3
24 445.95625 L4
25 445.94375 L5
26 445.93125 L6
27 445.91875 L7
28 445.90625 L8
29 445.89375 L9
30 445.88125 L0
Intek MT 5050 Frequency List Page 4 of 5
ADDITIONAL CHANNELS (SEMI-DUPLEX)
CHANNEL FREQUENCY TX FREQUENCY RX DISPLAY
NUMBER (MHz) (MHz) READING
31 446.01875 433.10000 d1
32 446.03125 433.12500 d2
33 446.05625 433.17500 d3
34 446.08125 434.70000 d4
35 446.09375 434.77500 d5
36 433.10000 446.01875 d6
37 433.12500 446.03125 d7
38 433.17500 446.05625 d8
39 434.70000 446.08125 d9
40 434.77500 446.09375 d0
41 446.10625 434.80000 F1
42 446.11875 434.82500 F2
43 446.13125 434.85000 F3
44 445.99375 435.02500 F4
45 445.98125 435.05000 F5
46 434.80000 446.10625 F6
47 434.82500 446.11875 F7
48 434.85000 446.13125 F8
49 435.02500 445.99375 F9
50 435.05000 445.98125 F0
Intek MT 5050 Frequency List Page 5 of 5
RE: OK hows this for a PMR 446 - Familyguy - 4 November 2012
should we invest in one and what range would we get
RE: OK hows this for a PMR 446 - NorthernRaider - 4 November 2012
(4 November 2012, 20:18)Familyguy Wrote: should we invest in one and what range would we get
NO, do research to see if this or other system will suit your needs, my own experiments and research have shown ME that CB is unsuitable for my needs, Standard PMR 446 is a joke and Ham for specialists, You need to find out what suits your own family or group.
For my own needs I need simple, reliable, affordable, unlicenced, hand sets that can do 10 miles line of sight, I have not found anything as of yet to meet my needs.
RE: OK hows this for a PMR 446 - Lightspeed - 4 November 2012
NR's specification is so restrictive that there is no solution that will meet it available in the UK.
NR's range requirement with minimal antennas is too great. ( being Pedantic that's not true. NR's specification was line of sight, and there are many many options that can do that. Actually a couple of cheapo PMR44s purchased from Tesco will easily achieve tens of miles line of sight mountain top to mountain top.)
The intek MT 5050 is one of the very best PMR446 license free radios on the market. It is certainly not a toy. But, as soon as you make the modifications to get higher power that NR mentions , the radios immediately become illegal to operate in the UK, wether as a licensed Amateur or not.
FamilyGuy: Please look back through other threads in this section. CB is a very valid choice if you want license free equipment. If you want a highly capable legal PMR446 the MT 5050 is a good choice, and its ability to operate at ultra low power on what are known as the LPD ( Low Power Device) frequencies could be really useful in keeping in touch with similarly equipped stations in the very near to you, without letting the whole neighborhood hear your transmissions. Earlier today Bug Out Bag mentioned the Midland Basecamp, this is often overlooked but is a great emergency radio for PMR446 as it has a self contained hand generator, light, Broadcast receiver, it also is LPD capable, and also receives Marine band I believe.
For anyone considering purchasing an Intek MT 5050 with the intention of making the high power mod, for the same 70 quid, you could purchase a far more capable Walkie-Talkies such as the Baofeng UV5r. Only last week I reviewed an upgraded Baofeng, which for the same money as the Intek can do the following:
Transmission
* All Amateur 2m and UHF bands ( Intek only operates on part of the UHF Band)
the 2m band is an excellent band for medium range low powered communications, which is why Amateurs are so protective of it.
*Receive and transmit on VHF marine Band ( intek cannot even receive)
*Receive and transmit on PMR 446 Frequencies ( as per Intek)
Standby time
Calculated almost a week continuous standby time using the high capacity battery option included in the compared price. I'm not sure what the Intek can do, but on paper it looks like only 24hrs standby.
Extras included on the UV5r in the comparative price
*Computer programming cable and software
*External Speaker Mike
*High Gain HT antenna
*Antenna adaptor to allow the radio to connect to external antennas
*12v power adaptor enabling it to be run directly from any 12v supply
The UV5r has many many advanced features that the Intek does not. Ah a 4/5w hand held emergency radio it beats the Intek in almost every way.
NOTE THAT IF MODIFIED, THE INTEK IS ILLEGAL FOR ANYONE TO USE ON PMR 446 FREQUENCIES IN THE UK, WHILE THE UV5R IS ALSO ILLEGAL TO OPERATE ON PMR446 FREQUENCIES, IT IS LEGAL TO BE OPERATED ON THE HAM BANDS BUY AMATEUR LICENSE HOLDERS.[i][u]
RE: OK hows this for a PMR 446 - NorthernRaider - 4 November 2012
LS wrote
""For anyone considering purchasing an Intek MT 5050 with the intention of making the high power mod, for the same 70 quid, you could purchase a far more capable Walkie-Talkies such as the Baofeng UV5r. Only last week I reviewed an upgraded Baofeng, which for the same money as the Intek can do the following:""
Can you expand on that please me old radioologist ?
RE: OK hows this for a PMR 446 - Lightspeed - 4 November 2012
(4 November 2012, 21:48)NorthernRaider Wrote: LS wrote
""For anyone considering purchasing an Intek MT 5050 with the intention of making the high power mod, for the same 70 quid, you could purchase a far more capable Walkie-Talkies such as the Baofeng UV5r. Only last week I reviewed an upgraded Baofeng, which for the same money as the Intek can do the following:""
Can you expand on that please me old radioologist ?
Hiya NR,
Sorry, I don't get what you mean. I listed tahte advantages in my reply: Walie Talkies like the UV5r cover more bands, ie have greater frequency range both on transmit and receive, and for the same money as the MT5050 can be upgraded with accessories taht will greatly increase operating time from the power pack, add a hand mike/speaker which is ultra useful when operating while portable with a fully loaded burgen, additional antennas to increase range and 12v power adaptors to allow the unit to operate directly from any 12v supply.
RE: OK hows this for a PMR 446 - NorthernRaider - 4 November 2012
(4 November 2012, 21:55)Lightspeed Wrote:(4 November 2012, 21:48)NorthernRaider Wrote: LS wrote
""For anyone considering purchasing an Intek MT 5050 with the intention of making the high power mod, for the same 70 quid, you could purchase a far more capable Walkie-Talkies such as the Baofeng UV5r. Only last week I reviewed an upgraded Baofeng, which for the same money as the Intek can do the following:""
Can you expand on that please me old radioologist ?
Hiya NR,
Sorry, I don't get what you mean. I listed tahte advantages in my reply: Walie Talkies like the UV5r cover more bands, ie have greater frequency range both on transmit and receive, and for the same money as the MT5050 can be upgraded with accessories taht will greatly increase operating time from the power pack, add a hand mike/speaker which is ultra useful when operating while portable with a fully loaded burgen, additional antennas to increase range and 12v power adaptors to allow the unit to operate directly from any 12v supply.
Ta muchly, I'm with you now, most of the frequencies appear to be HAM frequencies which is out in my book,so more frequencies is pointless if you need a ham licence to access them, I reiterate my original requirements for a SIMPLE , UNLICENCED,CHANNEL DISPLAY NOT FREQUENCIES, STAND ALONE ( no repeaters ) theres only the PMR 446 channels of use, I wonder if it displays the PMR 446 frequencies as channels or frequencies?
He He He, I'm going to need to have a drink of whiskey before long, I dont honestly know why I cannot explain myself in clear terms that the techno experts can grasp.
HAND HELD RADIO
4 watts minimum
UNLICENCED
Display in CHANNELS not frequencies
Does not need modifying by any more than cutting a link wire to get full power
BNC antenna fitting
Uses AA batteries
NO reprogramming
NO connecting to a computer
Does NOT use repeaters
10 mile line of sight range
Simple, concise, something any new prepper can unpack from its box after TSHTF and use straight away. !!!
99.99 % of preppers see a radio as a tool nothing more they are not interested in upgrades, repeaters, fancy antenna, licences, side bands, UHV versus VHF,repeaters etc. So it is fair to say there is NO suitable radio equipment at this time to meet our very simple needs
Yup in comparison the UV5-R is a better, indeed much better piece of kit than the Intek, sadly neither appear suitable for anyone except commited hobbyists.
RE: OK hows this for a PMR 446 - Paul - 4 November 2012
You'll always have your land line though NR.
Even if it only runs for a few days after the national grid goes down.
RE: OK hows this for a PMR 446 - NorthernRaider - 4 November 2012
(4 November 2012, 22:22)Paul Wrote: You'll always have your land line though NR.
Even if it only runs for a few days after the national grid goes down.
Dont need a land line in a prepping or SHTF scenario, and thankfully many of us dont need radios with their massive shortcoming either.
Perhaps in larger groups in the rebuilding stage one or two members could train up on amatuer radio systems but most wont bother because there is no system that comes close to meeting real world operational needs.
Dead letter drops, meets, couriers, messengers, rendezvous will do for much of the comms so long as planning and forethought is used.
RE: OK hows this for a PMR 446 - Lightspeed - 4 November 2012
(4 November 2012, 22:02)NorthernRaider Wrote:(4 November 2012, 21:55)Lightspeed Wrote:(4 November 2012, 21:48)NorthernRaider Wrote: LS wrote
""For anyone considering purchasing an Intek MT 5050 with the intention of making the high power mod, for the same 70 quid, you could purchase a far more capable Walkie-Talkies such as the Baofeng UV5r. Only last week I reviewed an upgraded Baofeng, which for the same money as the Intek can do the following:""
Can you expand on that please me old radioologist ?
Hiya NR,
Sorry, I don't get what you mean. I listed tahte advantages in my reply: Walie Talkies like the UV5r cover more bands, ie have greater frequency range both on transmit and receive, and for the same money as the MT5050 can be upgraded with accessories taht will greatly increase operating time from the power pack, add a hand mike/speaker which is ultra useful when operating while portable with a fully loaded burgen, additional antennas to increase range and 12v power adaptors to allow the unit to operate directly from any 12v supply.
Ta muchly, I'm with you now, most of the frequencies appear to be HAM frequencies which is out in my book,so more frequencies is pointless if you need a ham licence to access them, I reiterate my original requirements for a SIMPLE , UNLICENCED,CHANNEL DISPLAY NOT FREQUENCIES, STAND ALONE ( no repeaters ) theres only the PMR 446 channels of use, I wonder if it displays the PMR 446 frequencies as channels or frequencies?
He He He, I'm going to need to have a drink of whiskey before long, I dont honestly know why I cannot explain myself in clear terms that the techno experts can grasp.
HAND HELD RADIO
4 watts minimum
UNLICENCED
Display in CHANNELS not frequencies
Does not need modifying by any more than cutting a link wire to get full power
BNC antenna fitting
Uses AA batteries
NO reprogramming
NO connecting to a computer
Does NOT use repeaters
10 mile line of sight range
Simple, concise, something any new prepper can unpack from its box after TSHTF and use straight away. !!!
99.99 % of preppers see a radio as a tool nothing more they are not interested in upgrades, repeaters, fancy antenna, licences, side bands, UHV versus VHF,repeaters etc. So it is fair to say there is NO suitable radio equipment at this time to meet our very simple needs
Yup in comparison the UV5-R is a better, indeed much better piece of kit than the Intek, sadly neither appear suitable for anyone except commited hobbyists.
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OK I'll try my best
HAND HELD RADIO YES UV5R is handheld
4 watts minimum YES UV5R is handheld
UNLICENCED 4w Unlicensed=CB, no other choice
Display in CHANNELS not frequencies YES UV5R Displays Channels or frequencied, whichever you want
Does not need modifying by any more than cutting a link wire to get full power UV5R does not need modding IN ANY WAY to get full power
BNC antenna fitting UV5r uses SMC for which there are many antennas, or a 2 quid adaptor to BNC
Uses AA batteries Yes UV5r can use AA batteries, but standard Lithium Ion Power pack is far more powerful
NO reprogramming Yes and no UV5r has al frequencies available but for ease and speed of operation requires programming....get one with a programming cable and I'll send you the programming for free by e-mail
NO connecting to a computer UV5r can be set up from its key pad
Does NOT use repeaters COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT...what have repeaters gor to do with anything? Its not the radio that uses repeaters its the operator who chooses 9 or not) to use repeaters. Post SHTF I will not be relying on existing repeaters for my coms.
10 mile line of sight range Yes UV5r will give you 10 miles LOS
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Yup in comparison the UV5-R is a better, indeed much better piece of kit than the Intek, sadly neither appear suitable for anyone except commited hobbyists.
NO, THE UV5R IS SUITABLE FOR COMMITED SURVIVALISTS WHO WANT GOOD QUALITY, GOOD VALUE SOLUTIONS THAT GIVE OPTIMUM PERFORMANCE FROM CURRENT TECHNOLOGY, BECAUSE THESE RADIOS HAVE FAR GREATER FREQUEBNCY RANGE THAN TRADITIONAL HAM RADIO EQUIPMENT. PERSONALLY SPEAKING, UV5R TYPE RADIOS ARE THE PERFECT HANDHELD EMERGENCY RADIO FOR ME, BECAUSE THEY THE COVERS BROADCAST BAND, MARINE BAND, 2M BAND, UHF BAND AND PMR446 AND CAN REMAIN ON STATION FOR APPROX 7 DAYS BEFORE BEING RECHARGED[/b]