(14 July 2023, 20:36)Sekwo Wrote:

(14 July 2023, 16:42)bigpaul Wrote: the 90% is the usual estimate quoted on survival forums and given that 99% of the population dont prepare in any shape or form is probably accurate.
as for farming, most agribusinesses are based on mono cropping which uses copious amounts of chemicals, after some major event these chemicals wont be available, they are all imported, neither will the next years seed be available from the big seed companies so whether the weather patterns change is academic.

You make a good point about the chemicals. I once spoke to a farm who was thinking of growing "bio-fuels". He worked out that half his crop would be used on the farm to power the machinery etc. He didn't include fuel for the delivery vehicles and a lot of other energy needed to operate a farm, like the energy to manufacture the equipment.

If you take away modern petrochemicals, petrochemical fertilisers, petrochemical pesticides, herbicides, etc., and try to grow all your energy on the farm, there isn't a lot of land left to grow food.

There are a few places like the Nile where there is natural fertiliser from the floods, but realistically, if society breaks down, food production plummets. And if food production plummets, there is mass starvation. And, since the UK imports most of its food, and those producing the food will feed themselves first before exporting, it's not difficult to see which countries are going to have famines. Most people in the UK are oblivious to the serious risks we in the UK face, more than most other countries, if anything ever goes wrong.

(14 July 2023, 20:52)Pete Grey Wrote: I think most of us here just prep for WHAT we can, as BEST we can, and not worry about things we CAN’T change.

That’s me anyway, Just try and cover as many bases as you can, makes sense.