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RE: Seed Stocks - NorthernRaider - 4 December 2011
May I submit for your delectation this electronically hosted information source that may help you folks take a step closer to producing your own grub on your doorstep.
http://www.container-gardening-for-food.com/
Can I also suggest a quick google for VERTICAL VEG GARDENING, its getting quite popular with people living in smaller terraced propertys who only have yards to work with.
One site of note is
http://www.vegetable-gardening-online.com/vertical-vegetable-gardening.html
RE: Seed Stocks - bigpaul - 4 December 2011
I buy veg Plants from my local market, that way i get what will grow in my area. if you want to buy seeds to use after TSHTF you need to buy "heritage" seeds not hybrid (F1 type) seeds as any plant grown with hybrid seeds will be infertile.
RE: Seed Stocks - NorthernRaider - 4 December 2011
(4 December 2011, 11:03)bigpaul Wrote: I buy veg Plants from my local market, that way i get what will grow in my area. if you want to buy seeds to use after TSHTF you need to buy "heritage" seeds not hybrid (F1 type) seeds as any plant grown with hybrid seeds will be infertile.
Didnt know that either, ta very muchly.
RE: Seed Stocks - bigpaul - 4 December 2011
All F1 seeds, which is what you normally get in packets from a shop or garden centre, are GM(genetically modified) to be non reproductive, so that you have to go back each year to buy fresh seed from the shop or supplier, thats how these seed companies make their money.
RE: Seed Stocks - Skean Dhude - 4 December 2011
BP,
I had that understanding but it is not 100% true.
I had this discussion on the main site a while ago. The seed farmers buy is sterile but the stuff we buy will reproduce but not always with the same properties. For example a pea with cold resistance may produce other peas but without the cold resistance.
I contacted a manufacturer and they confirmed it. So we can use F1 seeds but your point is true. Buy heirloom by default for our long term supplies. However you should also have hybrid for short term, because some grow quicker, bigger and in more hostile conditions. Ideal for us straight away after an event.
So I decided to buy some hybrids but mainly heirloom.
RE: Seed Stocks - bigpaul - 4 December 2011
Buy F1's for Now but if you want to store seeds buy Heritage or Non Hybrid types SD, it is true some F1's MAY grow seeds that will grow again but they dont grow true and there will be some variation, and not ALL seeds will grow again, so to be actually certain i personally would NOT store hybrid seed.
RE: Seed Stocks - Skean Dhude - 4 December 2011
BP,
Exactly. Just pointing out that we should not ignore F1 seeds. They have their uses. When I started looking at seeds though I found that finding heirloom was difficult. Most seeds now are genetically modiied in one way or another and I was concerned. Now I now that they have their place I can fit both into my plans.
RE: Seed Stocks - bigpaul - 5 December 2011
you will find them listed in seed catalogues as "non hybrid" if it dosent say this then they are F1.
RE: Seed Stocks - Kenneth Eames - 5 December 2011
The Organic Gardening Catalogue is available from http://www.Organic Catalogue.com. They were formally known as the Henry Doubleday Association. They have a heirloom section but this is seperate from the catalogue. You probably have to be a member to access it. However, it does not cost anything, just ask for it and they will mail it free. Kenneth Eames.
Appologies for my error, website should read http://www.OrganicCatalogue.com. No gap between Organic and Catalogue. Sorry. Another good catalogue is http://www.suffolkherbs.com. They sell vegetables as well as herbs. Kenneth Eames.
RE: Seed Stocks - Straight Shooter - 23 October 2012
thankyou kenneth just ordered mine