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RE: Are the sheeple starting to wake up? - 00111001 - 4 September 2012 (4 September 2012, 14:42)NorthernRaider Wrote: ...it looks like many of you would not be able to turn starving displaced sheeple away when TSHTF ( which is now BTW) My caches , stockpiles etc are solely for the use of preppers and their families, no outsiders, no sheeple, etc. No handouts here chap. What's mine is mine. Whats your is yours. I don't like the term, but I'll use it: hungry "outsiders" - tough shit. It's not like you couldn't see this coming - should have done your homework. (4 September 2012, 14:42)NorthernRaider Wrote: Lesson two I suspect some of you could be preppers hoping you can find someone elses supplies and resources you can call upon. If it's an amicable agreement then I don't see anything wrong with that. Free-loading is not acceptable though. On another vein though, if I was forced to claim benefits (or even able to claim) I'd be on it like a shot. I don't really agree with it, but if every other fucker is on it then why shouldn't I reclaim some of my tax money and put it towards my preps? RE: Are the sheeple starting to wake up? - Barneyboy - 4 September 2012 when the shtf the stores will be for me and mine but now they can be replaced by more im not saying its going to be easy to turn them away butby then the rules have changed RE: Are the sheeple starting to wake up? - NorthernRaider - 4 September 2012 Hey I've a great idea, those of you who support the benefits and welfare system we have in the UK todays please send me half your money, half your supplies, one of your vehicles, half your medical kit, half your chooks and bunnies, etc because i have arbitrarily decided my socialist need is greater than yours because I am poor, infirm and old. You cannot possibly disagree if you believe in the welfare state. Oh and if you have any savings or profit in your house that means your richer than me which means i'm supposed to hate you and resent you ( but I cant cos I'm nice) so give me half of your savings cos I'm poorer than you as well, Its only fair according to socialist doctrine that you wealthier types share what you have and I will redistribute your wealth to less fortunate people. No ? (4 September 2012, 15:04)Barneyboy Wrote: when the shtf the stores will be for me and mine but now they can be replaced by more im not saying its going to be easy to turn them away butby then the rules have changed But what about those poor sheeple who apparently now number in excess of 150,000 in the UK who are reliant on charity food banks are you not going to help them now ? http://gfn.convio.net/site/PageServer?pagename=foodbanking_find&gclid=CM2D1J-OnLICFcENfAod-n0AAA Here we go all these places have starving families, surely its only fair we help them ? Barney TSHTF in 2008 its That time NOW my dear respected friend. 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I could be knocked down by a car tomorrow and be crippled for life. RE: Are the sheeple starting to wake up? - NorthernRaider - 4 September 2012 (4 September 2012, 14:56)00111001 Wrote: If it's an amicable agreement then I don't see anything wrong with that. Free-loading is not acceptable though. AT LAST, I wondered who would get the point first, Jeezus H Christ If you WISH to subscribe VOLUNTARILY to a welfare or cooperative or mutual support scheme that is truly great, But you should not be FORCED to contribute to a system that only ever demands more and more from you. RE: Are the sheeple starting to wake up? - 00111001 - 4 September 2012 (4 September 2012, 15:20)NorthernRaider Wrote:(4 September 2012, 14:56)00111001 Wrote: If it's an amicable agreement then I don't see anything wrong with that. Free-loading is not acceptable though. I agree whole heartedly with you. That's why I lie on my tax returns I wouldn't mind paying tax if they didn't waste it. RE: Are the sheeple starting to wake up? - Barneyboy - 4 September 2012 (4 September 2012, 15:13)NorthernRaider Wrote: Hey I've a great idea, those of you who support the benefits and welfare system we have in the UK todays please send me half your money, half your supplies, one of your vehicles, half your medical kit, half your chooks and bunnies, etc because i have arbitrarily decided my socialist need is greater than yours because I am poor, infirm and old. You cannot possibly disagree if you believe in the welfare state. as i said before when the shtf the rules have changed by then RE: Are the sheeple starting to wake up? - NorthernRaider - 4 September 2012 (4 September 2012, 15:19)bigpaul Wrote:(4 September 2012, 14:34)NorthernRaider Wrote:yes, so why bother talking about govt and taxes? we all know its going to collapse and soon, thats why we are all preppers isnt it??(4 September 2012, 14:20)bigpaul Wrote: before the welfare act(1948) when people were unemployed they had NO income and they STARVED, do we really want to abolish benefit and go back to living like that??? we will NEVER EVER have 100% employment so some people are always going to be unemployed. it dosent matter what job or career someone has, we never know what the future will bring, unemployment, sickness, disability it could and often does happen. I could be knocked down by a car tomorrow and be crippled for life. BP I can always rely on you for clear concise wisdom, the system is falling apart now, your kids owe the govt £14,000 the minute they are born, There are millions of Greek, Portugees, Spanish and other EU dependant socialists all wanting YOU to pay for their upkeep. Here in the Uk theres 3 million on the dole another 2.5 million out of work not on the system theres millions of people all with their hands out and the cupboard is bare. (4 September 2012, 15:22)00111001 Wrote: I agree whole heartedly with you. No body minds paying modest taxes for essential services, but essential service are not paying the unemployed or elderly or disabled, that is their FAMILIEs responsibility , we owe them a good basic state pension and zero council tax nothing more. Look the welfare state has been in place since 1948 there is no one who has not had the change to pay NI or Tax into the system and save privately as well. Those whinging about poverty etc have pissed away most of their free money down the Labour and Workies clubs for their entire working lives, and whilst they demand and recieve free retirement bunglows and OAP homes the silly bastards who worked hard all their lives, saved and bought their own homes are told they have to sell their homes to pay for care. That is wrong and immoral. RE: Are the sheeple starting to wake up? - bigpaul - 4 September 2012 i think the whole bloody thing will go t#ts up anyway when the EU collapses, that will be the beginning of the end. role on the revolution! RE: Are the sheeple starting to wake up? - Barneyboy - 4 September 2012 (4 September 2012, 15:24)NorthernRaider Wrote:(4 September 2012, 15:19)bigpaul Wrote:(4 September 2012, 14:34)NorthernRaider Wrote:yes, so why bother talking about govt and taxes? we all know its going to collapse and soon, thats why we are all preppers isnt it??(4 September 2012, 14:20)bigpaul Wrote: before the welfare act(1948) when people were unemployed they had NO income and they STARVED, do we really want to abolish benefit and go back to living like that??? we will NEVER EVER have 100% employment so some people are always going to be unemployed. it dosent matter what job or career someone has, we never know what the future will bring, unemployment, sickness, disability it could and often does happen. I could be knocked down by a car tomorrow and be crippled for life. so wot do we do with the old and ill if they have no one |