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Big Brother is listening... - Devonian - 9 February 2015
Unbelievably Big Brother is now listening to and recording your private conversations whilst watching TV!!! So Samsung advises users of its Smart TV's (in the small print) not to discuss sensitive issues in front of the TV.
http://news.sky.com/story/1424037/warning-over-tv-which-listens-in-on-users
I wonder how long until this also happens with your Samsung mobile phones......if it isn't already.
RE: Big Brother is listening... - Mortblanc - 9 February 2015
Does the name Edward Snowdon mean nothing to you?
RE: Big Brother is listening... - Devonian - 9 February 2015
(9 February 2015, 15:11)Mortblanc Wrote: Does the name Edward Snowdon mean nothing to you?
It's one thing when the security services are intercepting your phone and emails etc, but when a foreign 'private company' is doing it and then sharing the digitised conversations you and your wife may for example be having whilst watching the news or your favourite soap, with any and all of their 'commercial partners', then that does take it to a whole new level in my books......
How long will it be before they are selling details of every person who has mentioned the word inheritance (for example) to financial companies or worse still to a company associated with the Russian Mafia or other organised crime syndicates, who then decide to target your bank account thinking you've had a windfall.....
RE: Big Brother is listening... - BeardyMan - 9 February 2015
I thought it obvious that should one have a voice controlled TV, smartphone, games console that it will be recording everything said waiting for certain words. How else do you think these things work? And any data captured is always owned by the people who capture it, so it's tough shit really.
Just unplug the mic or turn off the voice command option.
Wait til they have the TVs controlled by hand gestures, then they'll have video of you prancing around the living room flailing your arms wildly when you're only trying to turn the volume down...
RE: Big Brother is listening... - Devonian - 9 February 2015
(9 February 2015, 17:41)BeardyMan Wrote: I thought it obvious that should one have a voice controlled TV, smartphone, games console that it will be recording everything said waiting for certain words. How else do you think these things work? And any data captured is always owned by the people who capture it, so it's tough shit really.
Just unplug the mic or turn off the voice command option.
Wait til they have the TVs controlled by hand gestures, then they'll have video of you prancing around the living room flailing your arms wildly when you're only trying to turn the volume down...
I wouldn't say that it's obvious that every word spoken when you are in the same room is recorded and transcribed into text which is shared with their partners.
It's certainly not 'needed' to make the TV work, it's like using a remote control, it reacts to the button pressed (or your voice), it doesn't need to store and record which buttons were pressed and then send them back to Samsung for them to do whatever with...
Fortunately I don't have such technology, but you can be guaranteed that it'll be in any future ones that are purchased.
But it does make you wonder, after all think about how many TV's have an Xbox or Nintendo attached to them, I'm pretty sure a lot of them already have cameras (kinnect/Wii) which could be watching you.........
RE: Big Brother is listening... - PrepperJohn - 9 February 2015
Why would you need a TV that listens to you?
Have people become so lazy that using a remote control wears them out.
We really do live in a fucked up world.
PJ
RE: Big Brother is listening... - Mortblanc - 9 February 2015
People in our present world are addicted to this gadgetry. It has no connection to laziness, the possession of the latest technology is a status symbol.
In other realms, some of it is used as safety features and is either required by law or purchased for convenience.
Many people I know have either blue tooth or other voice activated mechanisms in their automobiles, as well as OnStar and Lojack.
In my area the entire cable TV system is being replaced with fiber optic network, which makes the application mentioned in the OP much easier.
RE: Big Brother is listening... - Sunna - 10 February 2015
I do wonder if we will be able to pick a tv without this tec or they will be all made like it , the same for other stuff as well.
RE: Big Brother is listening... - Mortblanc - 10 February 2015
Imagine what the spy world would have been if they had access to all this personal technology back in the Cold War era ??
All of our cell phones now have GPS locators installed. They can also be accessed to monitor conversations I am told. Pulling the battery is about the only way to completely disable them.
Automobiles also have GPS and trip recorders mandated by law over here. They can be accessed from under the dashboard or in some cases by transmitter.
Every transport van in the US has a GPS transmitter on board. The shipping companies know exactly where every vehicle they own is located at the touch of a computer button.
Several of our insurance companies have trip recorders with transmitters to monitor driving performance and theoretically make ones insurance cheaper. It is a small device, the size of an egg, that plugs into the 12v output and does its thing. The leading company in that endeavor is the Progressive Insurance Company, founded by George Sorous. Others have followed, making "voluntary monitoring" of speed, braking, acceleration and driving habits necessary for the lowest rate level and best coverage.
Combine performance tracking with GPS tracking and TPTB can simply send one a fine in the mail when they engage in bad behavior behind the wheel.
Or they can simply shut the car engine off! Several of the popular anti theft systems have a remote shutdown feature as a cell phone app.
About 5 years ago all our air wave TV transmissions went to digital frequencies, requiring a digital converter box for old sets and all new sets to include them internally. What that feature is capable of I do not know and suspect no one else does either. TV sets have entered the realm of disposable products where the cost of a repair is more than the cost of a new set. No one takes the back off any more and god only knows what is inside or integrated on any of those circuit boards. A transmitter possibly, for those not connected to the cable ??
I have not seen a TV sold in the past 20 years that does not require the remote for initial programing and activation. I have one set that will not operate without the remote, and has no buttons or knobs giving one the option.
And then there is the computer, sitting on the lap or desk. All laptops and notepads now have a camera on board, as do most of the desk tops sold now. Computers are of little real use unless connected to the internet, and as such are the first and easiest tools for access into the living space. Several of my friends have accidentally left their cameras on when they turned their screens off, to find they were broadcasting the activities inside their home to the entire internet.
Back in '09, when my wife passed away, her sister, who is a computer IT specialist, hacked into my computer net to check the status of my late wife's bank accounts. I came home to find the computer remotely turned on and the account history scrolling down the screen of a computer that had been turned off and shut down before I had gone to work.
It could have just as easily been the camera and audio that had been remotely accessed, and that was a capability in use almost a decade ago.
I solved that problem by unplugging the computer at the power source, but TPTB could just as easily mandate a directly wired computer/cable system in every home.
Over here cable TV is wired into every flat ad house that is built and cable service is included in most rents. It is already there, and just because you do not pay for it does not mean it can't be turned on remotely and used to monitor actions.
I had one friend that was sure his smoke detectors were watching him, but I think he was a little bonkers.
Now one might say they will avoid all that stuff. No TV, no cell phone, no automobile, off grid completely!
Except for the computer, and the CCTV nationwide net, and the monitoring on public transport, and inside public buildings, private shops and out the windows and on the eves of private home security systems wired into the internet.
Why would you not be happy that this is possible??? After all it is done for the public safety and to protect against terrorism, to insure "the greater good" of the people.
Aren't you all up into the "greater good" thing??
RE: Big Brother is listening... - PrepperJohn - 10 February 2015
Great post MB
It is going to become harder and harder to maintain any sort of privacy in the future but I will endeavour to keep as many of these products from infiltrating my space.
PJ