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Europe Again "At War" - CharlesHarris - 26 March 2016
RE: Europe Again "At War" - NorthernRaider - 26 March 2016
Charley as unappealing as it is for our American friends but Europe started fighting again the day the Cold War ended, Not just Irish / Basque/ Cypriot / Bosnian conflicts but the dreadful and crippling effects of Euro Socialism which has led to mass migration on an unprecidented scale, growing civil unrest, a growing migrant community that has no intention of integrating, economic corruption and ineptitude that saw the Irish, Icelandic, Greek, Italian, Portugese economies collapse and the others take a severe pounding. Millions of Europeans are treated as second class citizens in their own countries and any objecting see them dismissed as racists and bigots, they are also only ever seen as endless sources of revue to be taxed as much as possible to be wasted on bloated welfare and other hair brained skills. Examples such as British couples no longer being able to get onto the housing purchase ladder or even Council house waiting lists is classic, I saw a TV doc where one young British couple with two infants in a one bedroom flat were told the waiting list for a house was 3.5 years. Three point five years and there third child they were told that waiting list was now over 11 years. But the Lib Lab Cons just keep letting millions more people pour into the UK. Resentment, frustration and anger is growing and ALL of the mainstream political parties are equally guilty for creating the mess and being unable to deal with it. This is leading to a rise in Far Right, Anarchist and Far Left Political groups and we all know EXACTLY where that will lead. If you see Europe as a cake with enough ingredients to feed 600 million people and you add another 4 million, then 3 million, them 5 million etc all wanting a slice of that cake SOMEONE is going to go hungry.
RE: Europe Again "At War" - NorthernRaider - 26 March 2016
FYI Britain army is under 80,000 troops of all types now, thats not enough to even protect the home counties, as for the cops they are so politically correct and politicised they will probably just focus on protecting the ruling political elite who pay them, and spend their time going after political dissidents rather than enemies of the state.
RE: Europe Again "At War" - CharlesHarris - 27 March 2016
NR, I hear you and was afraid that was the case.
Political correctness and the takeover of Virginia politics by liberal Democrats (really Socialists) in Northern Virginia and Tidewater, combined with high taxes to support the non-working, dependent voting class, were the primary reasons I moved to West Virginia.
The primarily working class people here in the past traditionally voted Democrat, because of the influence of the labor unions, but Obama's energy policies have completely gutted the coal economy and the hillbillys have heard clearly Hillary's speeches that she plans to put the coal companies out of business, it is safe to assume that they will no march in lock-step with their union bosses anymore.
While I think Trump is a complete idiot, if he is the only candidate running against Hillary, I'll first vomit in the voting booth and then do my duty...
The Republicans care nothing for the middle class working stiff, but only for milking the cow for the government contracts supporting the military-industrial complex which Ike waned us about. Similarly the Democrats are no longer the party of Harry Truman or John F. Kennedy, but have been thoroughly taken over by Communists and don't even try to hide it anymore...
I think what we need here is for the Tea Party to formally organize and evolve into something akin to UKIP like a USiP.
My buddy in Italy finds the whole shebang amusing and tells me, "and you thought Italian politics were bad?"
RE: Europe Again "At War" - NorthernRaider - 27 March 2016
Trouble is that both Left and Right have both become ridiculous and neither serve the needs of the common man, and the middle ground Liberals are so obssessed with being all things to all men they ended up being of no use to anyone, its the system thats busted once over the left and right used to balance each other out, but no longer.
RE: Europe Again "At War" - MaryN - 27 March 2016
It is getting quite difficult to decide how to respond to the "gathering storm" that seems to be on the verge of engulfing Europe. I can see that the refugee/immigrant situation is a large part of the problem at the moment, but the rising tide of dissatisfaction with politicians is just adding fuel to the fire. Now with the threat of terrorist attacks becoming quite serious, I honestly don't know how to deal with it. I can sit here quietly in my home - nicely out of the way in the countryside - but somehow I feel the situation requires action on my part, and I don't know what it is. I am going to continue revising my food supplies, home security etc etc., but...but... but.
The coming Referendum will allow many people the chance to let off steam at the politicians and the political landscape, but I'm not sure that it will immediately or dramatically halt the difficulties. My gut feeling is that we are heading for a war situation, and I have no plan for dealing with that.
RE: Europe Again "At War" - NorthernRaider - 27 March 2016
How to plan for it is the million dollar question Mary, the only thing I can suggest is try and imagine getting up tomorrow morning and find the power, gas and water are off, the TV schedules are cancelled and the government has implemented martial law, Then plan accordingly.
RE: Europe Again "At War" - CharlesHarris - 28 March 2016
RE: Europe Again "At War" - NorthernRaider - 28 March 2016
According to Sky at 21.15 hours info has leaked out that Isil are now planning on trying to kill as many Jewish infants, toddlers and school kids as possible in Europe.
RE: Europe Again "At War" - CharlesHarris - 29 March 2016
Read the article, it referred to threats in Turkey, but not Europe, unless I missed something...