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UK Government Moves Aggressively To Censor & Control The Internet - Jonas - 20 May 2017
RE: UK Government Moves Aggressively To Censor & Control The Internet - Mortblanc - 20 May 2017
How the companies respond is not the issue.
How the public responds is the issue.
The companies exist to make a profit, not to create government policy.
If the companies wanted to create change all they would have to do is shut down Google, Bing and all the other search engines for 2 hours on Monday afternoon, one of the most productive segments of the work week, and show what censorship might really be like.
RE: UK Government Moves Aggressively To Censor & Control The Internet - LAC - 20 May 2017
Whenever a government complains about another government's censorship, it's a fair bet that is exactly what they are planning to do themselves.
RE: UK Government Moves Aggressively To Censor & Control The Internet - Straight Shooter - 20 May 2017
More like the lengths they will go to ...to hide truth and stifle decent ...as MB points out....its what the people do about it...if awake just say NO......and for us in the UK that means vote for anyone bar the conservatives .....even a dead chicken would be better than the illusion of choice ....there is no choice ....sad but true.
RE: UK Government Moves Aggressively To Censor & Control The Internet - LAC - 20 May 2017
RE: UK Government Moves Aggressively To Censor & Control The Internet - sethorly - 21 May 2017
Unfortunately there are evil ideologies out there, notably the Salafist ideology but also other far-right ideologies, that need to be censored in my view. As always, such 'government' would need checks and balances. In the ideal world we wouldn't need such restrictions, but the world isn't yet close enough to that ideal.
RE: UK Government Moves Aggressively To Censor & Control The Internet - LAC - 21 May 2017
(21 May 2017, 10:15)sethorly Wrote: Unfortunately there are evil ideologies out there, notably the Salafist ideology but also other far-right ideologies, that need to be censored in my view. As always, such 'government' would need checks and balances. In the ideal world we wouldn't need such restrictions, but the world isn't yet close enough to that ideal.
True sethorly, but one does not need to use a hammer to crack a nut. If something threatens to do harm or incites others to do harm there are already laws to deal with that. Most other things can and should be up for debate in a free society. It is often more dangerous to suppress discussion as it usually leads to building resentment on the part of those being suppressed, thereby unwittingly contributing to a feeling of victimhood which can be further exploited for political/social gain.
RE: UK Government Moves Aggressively To Censor & Control The Internet - Skean Dhude - 21 May 2017
There is no need for censorship. As pointed out there are already laws in place to curb those abuses.
The issue with censorship is that if we had censorship laws in place Trump, Brexit, UKIP and the like would have been subject to those laws. How do you think that would work out.
Everything government touches it screws up. Do you really think censorship would be any different.
RE: UK Government Moves Aggressively To Censor & Control The Internet - Mortblanc - 21 May 2017
You guys are acting like censorship was not already in place and you could do something to stop it!
My view is that when the media chooses what they will report, how it will be presented, only good photos will be presented of some people and only bad photos of others, that bad crime statistics will only be printed when it meets the media standards and the statistics that are presented prove only what the media believes,
Then there is already extreme censorship in place and the government is not to blame, but the media outlets, editors and reporters.
The media outlets world wide are self censored to present their own version of "reality" and they have been since the first picture was scribed into the wall of a pyramid. The entire world knows that the UK has Labor and Tory media outlets that present the view as their party wishes it to be presented. It is the same all over the world no matter what the presentation source happens to be, print or digital.
And all the search engines already censor your searches and limit the information you receive. We already had that little tussle during our elections over here last year.
RE: UK Government Moves Aggressively To Censor & Control The Internet - Skean Dhude - 21 May 2017
MB, The difference is that people can, and do, report alternative views and people are reading those views. Once May has had her way these people will be silenced by the power of the state.