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looks ok but the real test is to use it .... go out in the countryside with just that and the cloths your stood in and see how you go.

my guess in 24hrs you would be cold wet and hungury .

I agree Sunna, most important are:

Always wearing adequate clothing for the expected weather. Having a windproof outer layer and a warm when wet insulating layer which can be wrung out, shaken out and put back on, if you get soaked is vital. Wool still works here!

Your kit should always have an extra warming layer, anorak or poncho, hat, gloves and extra dry socks in waterproof Alosak bag. Having extra dry clothing can be life saving in terms of conserving heat and keeping hands working to get fire.

Always carrying adequate, well proven EDC tools with you with which you have developed skill in using and confidence in from daily use is a great help.

Having "bomb proof" reliable fire starting kit which can be executed with cold hands is a life saver. Vaseline-Cotton Balls, a BIC lighter and ferro rod are primary. A hatchet or froe to make shavings and reduce wet wood to find kindling. Large contractor twist type pencil sharpener to make lots of shavings from smaller sticks.

Road flare is the OMG~! Cannot fail fire option.

A headlamp which burns at least 12 hours on one set of batteries for hands-free lighting to walk out or build a shelter, tend the fire.

Basic signals, whistle, torch, signal mirror, VS17 panel.

The fire building test test they used to do out at Camp Darby. They put every size of wood that a person would need to build a fire in a 5 gallon bucket and filled it with water. Tent peg and broom sticks up to cricket bat sized timber which had sat in there for easily 5-6 hours. Could have been more depending on what we had to do that first night. Rain or shine and no matter the temp we had the project. I carried a KBar back then, picture that in your minds eye, if raining my Batman and I would start batoning the thick stuff while Taco set up his parachute shelter over us. It sucked but we were young and hard and wanted to prove ourselves. We would split that timber down as small as we could get it. Match stick size was the best for getting it going. Some times we would have to cheat and go fine some pine lighter knot. Usually that would happen when Master Chief would use all pine and no oak in the bucket. Fire is fire no matter how you get it going. By the way that KBar has split more wood and opened more ammo and ration cans than Obama has golf balls. That is no embellishment either.

These kits a fucking hilarious! People spend a pretty penny on what is essentially very cheap crap in a nice box.

Seal team 6 issue?!
Hahahahahahaha, I think sir that you are a victim of marketing here...

Holy fuck, you wasted $157! That's impressive.

I've got an authentic SBS sniper E&E kit going for a mere £95.

Paypal me bro, it's yours. You're gonna love it!!

BM, Does that include the Barrett?

I've yet to see a commercially available ready made kit that gives good value , you really should construct your own , mean's everything in it will be of use to you and of decent quality,even kits issued to aircrew,special forces get trimmed/added too ,customised, back in the day it was mess tin's or bandy tin's now there are many off the shelf options for a receptacle.

Baccy tin's lol not bandy!