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RE: Gun availability via printer - maybe! - Talon - 7 May 2013
Making a single shot percussion pistol is incredibly easy with basic tools (well when I say basic I mean a lathe),a decent quality recurve bow is harder to make.I can't see much sense in that printable gun, especially in the states where guns are freely available (and most likely will remain to be at least in our lifetime)
RE: Gun availability via printer - maybe! - Mortblanc - 10 May 2013
The 3-D pistol has been removed from the internet by our STATE Department!
This may mean nothing to you in Britain but it is a real development here.
Until now the State Department has had nothing to do with firearms or the internet. Firearms are controlled by a special section of the treasury department called the ATFE (alcohol/tobacco/firearms/explosives).
The reasons for the State Department stepping in was due to international arms control treaty.
The plans for the weapon were downloaded 100,000 times with the largest number outside the U.S. going to Spain, then GB. The website has gone dark but the plans are out there now and can be obtained by anyone with the ability to track them.
For me it is not the design of the weapon, the means of producing it or the materials that are important, it is access to the plans as freedom of information and resistance to censorship as well as access to the ability to defend oneself.
RE: Gun availability via printer - maybe! - Franc - 10 May 2013
the plans for the gun, and other useful stuff are available on pirate bay, via the usual proxies.
RE: Gun availability via printer - maybe! - Skean Dhude - 10 May 2013
History shows that you can't close Pandora's Box once it is openned but bless em, they try every time. Simple minded souls.
RE: Gun availability via printer - maybe! - Mortblanc - 10 May 2013
One of the nice little things about this gun was it's name, the Liberator.
That was also the name of a single shot stamped metal pistol that was dropped by the thousands into occupied areas during WW2 for use by the resistance movements.
The allies dropped cases of them by parachute randomly across the countryside. They knew that most of them would be picked up by German troops or government units, but tptb would always wonder how many they had not found and had gotten into the hands of the resistance.
My FIL was with the 1st Division during WW2 and claimed they found many resistance units using the liberator pistols as they swept through Europe. Usually the pistol was backup for the weapon they had taken from a dead German they had killed with the liberator.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FP-45_Liberator
RE: Gun availability via printer - maybe! - Timelord - 11 May 2013
Seeing as the plans are already out there, I would like to get hold of the plans to build an atomic bomb for undisclosed use as I think it is my right to freedom of information and a stand against censorship....
RE: Gun availability via printer - maybe! - Mortblanc - 11 May 2013
So you are equating the construction of a single shot .22 pistol fr use as a self defense tool with the construction of an atomic bomb?
No wonder you fellows can no longer carry a Swiss Army Knife when you walk the dog.
RE: Gun availability via printer - maybe! - bigpaul - 11 May 2013
(11 May 2013, 14:54)Mortblanc Wrote: No wonder you fellows can no longer carry a Swiss Army Knife when you walk the dog.
only applies in the cities, out in the sticks everyone carries a knife as an everyday tool.
RE: Gun availability via printer - maybe! - Timelord - 11 May 2013
"For me it is not the design of the weapon, the means of producing it or the materials that are important, it is access to the plans as freedom of information and resistance to censorship as well as access to the ability to defend oneself"
(11 May 2013, 18:49)Timelord Wrote: "For me it is not the design of the weapon, the means of producing it or the materials that are important, it is access to the plans as freedom of information and resistance to censorship as well as access to the ability to defend oneself"
So it does matter then????
Thought provoking....
RE: Gun availability via printer - maybe! - Charlie - uk - 12 May 2013
I heard, the brave designers of this 3D plastic gun, didn't dare fire their printed weapon, except from 10 meters away with the trigger attached to a piece of string. And even then they said total lifetime wouldn't be more than 5-6 shots total.
I also noticed that the polymers used were not compatible with any of the models available for 'home' use. This problem will probably be resolved in the near future, but you do wonder why non of the established gun makers have not gone the composite plastic route yet....