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RE: Brexit no deal - CharlesHarris - 23 May 2019
Forwarded to me from a friend across the pond who is your neighbour. I think he makes some good points:
Lest we forget - Just to concentrate minds. on who to vote for."
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2011 - Cadbury moved to Poland with EU grant.
2011 - Ford Transit moved to Turkey with EU grant.
Jaguar Landrover new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, sold to Volkeswagen last week.
Peugeot closed Ryton plant (was Rootes Group) moved production to Slovakia.
British Army's new Ajax armed vehicles to be built in Spain using Swedish steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant instead of Wales.
Dyson goes to Malaysia with an EU grant.
Crown Closures Bournemouth (was Metal Box) gone to Poland with EU grant. Once employed 1,200.
M&S manufacturing gone to FE with EU loan.
Hornby Models gone. All toys and models gone from UK with patents… all with EU grants.
Gillette gone to E. Europe with EU grant.
Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.
Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.
Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil foam plant will relocate to Roemond Netherlands with EU funding.
Hoover Merthyr Tydfil factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company, Candy with EU backing.
ICI integration into Holland's Akzo Nobel with EU bank loan. Within days of the merger, several UK factories were closed eliminating 3,500 jobs.
Boots sold to Italian Stefano Pessina who've based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year using an EU loan for the purchase. Now issued profit warning last week.
JDS Uniphase run by two Dutchmen who bought up companies in the UK with £20 million EU 'regeneration grants', created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean up paid by the UK taxpayer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry.
UK airports owned by Spanish company.
Scottish Power owned by Spanish company.
Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies (Deutschebarn).
Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by EDF (Energie de France) part owned by French Govt. using cheap Chinese steel which has catastrophically failed at other nuclear installations. EDF now says the costs will double and it will be very late if it even does come online.
Swindon once made rail locomotives and rolling stock. All transferred to Bombardier in Derby due to their losses in the aviation market will see the end railway manufacture altogether. Bombadier got a grant to keep going in Derby, but diverted it to their loss-making aviation site in Canada.
39% British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies mostly in the EU.
Mini cars are built by BMW in Holland and Austria.
Fans outrage as foreign firm Nestle shrinks Terry's Chocolate Oranges by 10% but price remains the same.
And the last is the destruction of our steel industry. We invented the process in 1856, before Henry Bressemer everything was made of cast iron or bronze/copper! British Steel's receivership loses 25,000 jobs. Makes us dependent on poor quality imports (see above Hinkley Point C) with the knock on effects to manufacturing.
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"Anyone voting for the parties currently in Parliament is a traitor."
KBO
RE: Brexit no deal - CharlesHarris - 24 May 2019
The elites everywhere are so fond of believing that their wealth and position are proof that they have the superior, God-given capacity to determine social equity/fairness for all of the “Walmart masses”, and that there is within this awareness, an inherent duty for them to arbitrate the life conditions of those same masses, as most certainly they’re incapable of negotiating life without such guidance.
The American revolution and the ongoing industrial revolution both went a long way toward sounding the death knell of landed aristocracy/feudalism/colonialism loudly and clearly; still, it took another 150 years (WW I) for the tolling of the bell to result in any widespread change. Democracy crept in, it was literally an experimental system of government in nearly all of Europe (most empire remnants kept some form of royalty around as pets or whatever); suddenly, uneducated serfs and peasants were supposed to look after themselves, and no longer seek solace or redress of problems from the crown. Meanwhile, Karl Marx had unleashed Communism, which system had tremendous appeal to all those uneducated, emancipated serfs and peasants. Then came the 1929 crash, then WW II. Europe was trashed but in the parts where the US could exert control, democracy did pretty well, as did capitalism. Unfortunately, the long war policy of the Soviets has born fruit, eroding democracy and degrading freedom everywhere within the EU, with the results detailed by your friend. The aristocracy, both the titled and the new rich, rely on feudal roots of many thousands of years depth and influence to expand their power, keep the dirty commoners in line and allow them to cultivate delusions of adequacy, if not superiority. They can look to the oligarchs in Russia and the billionaires in China to see that it is possible for them to maintain their wealth and power in both communist and fascist countries. No worries, eh?
Britain needs to get out, then revolt against 60 years of socialism. We’ll see.
RE: Brexit no deal - Pete Grey - 24 May 2019
I did not know it was EU grants had funded the rape of our industry.
Why have our successive governments allowed it.
Together with the US we fed europe after WW2.
When the EU collapses we should let the bastards starve.
RE: Brexit no deal - LAC - 26 May 2019
Excellent information ammo CH. Thank your friend.
RE: Brexit no deal - Mortblanc - 27 May 2019
(24 May 2019, 16:48)Pete Grey Wrote: I did not know it was EU grants had funded the rape of our industry.
Why have our successive governments allowed it.
Together with the US we fed europe after WW2.
When the EU collapses we should let the bastards starve.
It is very simple Pete, your successive governments are not separate entities, they are part of the process. Your leaders helped form the plan from 1900 onward. It was well under way before WW1 erupted and sped the process.
You had one renegade during WW2 but he was ousted immediately at the close of the war. The intent being to continue strict government control of all phases of life under a "nanny state", sanctioned by the wartime emergency, crippling the initiative of the population and rendering them completely government dependent.
RE: Brexit no deal - Pete Grey - 27 May 2019
The trouble now is the sheeple are now so much dependent on the nanny state it’s almost to late.
We need a hard brexit, as hard as it can be, to shake the complacency out of TPTB and the sheeple, and if it’s bad enough to cause riots before things are sorted so be it.
Then we need to rebuild the manufacturing base and try to get back to where our industry should be.
A hard brexit will probably cause another fall in the pound but that will help exports, imported raw materials will cost more, and so will imported food and fuel.
We need to produce more and grow more, and cut waste, we need to start fracking and we are sitting on coal reserves estimated to last us 200 years.
German industry is in a slight decline, we should take advantage it. Spain France and Italy do not have the traditional engineering background we have.
We were the worlds fifth largest economy, with the right leadership we can better it.
RE: Brexit no deal - Stewart - 27 May 2019
pete grey why would fracking help.the gas that is produced is being loaded into tanks and being exported to ineous plants worldwide.none is being put in the grid
RE: Brexit no deal - Pete Grey - 27 May 2019
(27 May 2019, 21:21)Stewart Wrote: pete grey why would fracking help.the gas that is produced is being loaded into tanks and being exported to ineous plants worldwide.none is being put in the grid
According to the british gas website we only produce 44% of our gas needs, 47% of our gas comes from european pipe lines, the remaining 9% is liquid natural gas coming in by tanker.
Three quarters of our homes are heated by gas, a quarter of our electricity is generated by gas.
RE: Brexit no deal - CharlesHarris - 6 June 2019
RE: Brexit no deal - LAC - 7 June 2019
That is why Verhofstadt was screaming and demanding/begging for an EU army in the EU parliament a few months ago.