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Post SHTF morphine. - Hrusai - 30 June 2012

morphine is a fantastic painkiller and post event will be fairly hard to come by and in keeping with preparedness i believe it is important to have the necessary knowledge to synthesise compounds such as morphine

so heres a guide.

http://pages.unibas.ch/mdpi/ecsoc/a0048/a0048.htm

I must state that i do not condone illegal drug use, and as such this is provided purely for academic interest, and for the use of a post SHTF medical kit.

if your interested in more synthesis guides, just ask me and ill see what i can find for you, BUT do not ask me for guides on how to synthesise illegal drugs as i shall not provide them, i shall only find medical compounds.
This is a basic guide and you'll need to put your science heads on to understand it! if this is too complex i can find you some simpler things with relative ease Smile


RE: Post SHTF morphine. - Weyoun - 30 June 2012

You can also buy morphine online from Canadian pharmacies.


RE: Post SHTF morphine. - Hrusai - 30 June 2012

to the uk?? im somewhat sceptical of that Tongue


RE: Post SHTF morphine. - Tibbs735 - 30 June 2012

It is surprisingly easy to make things like ether and chloroform, the latter can be made with acetone and bleach!


RE: Post SHTF morphine. - Timelord - 30 June 2012

(30 June 2012, 06:21)Hrusai Wrote: morphine is a fantastic painkiller and post event will be fairly hard to come by and in keeping with preparedness i believe it is important to have the necessary knowledge to synthesise compounds such as morphine

so heres a guide.

http://pages.unibas.ch/mdpi/ecsoc/a0048/a0048.htm

I must state that i do not condone illegal drug use, and as such this is provided purely for academic interest, and for the use of a post SHTF medical kit.

if your interested in more synthesis guides, just ask me and ill see what i can find for you, BUT do not ask me for guides on how to synthesise illegal drugs as i shall not provide them, i shall only find medical compounds.
This is a basic guide and you'll need to put your science heads on to understand it! if this is too complex i can find you some simpler things with relative ease Smile

Are you having a laugh!! Your'e not autistic are you by any chance??


RE: Post SHTF morphine. - Hrusai - 30 June 2012

well im fairly sure im not, although due to recent events (e.g. the last 2-3 years of my life) this is actually beginning to be under question xDD......so you never know i may be Big Grin

also im fairly well versed in these types of chemistry as i wasnt always as squeeky clean as i am now Wink
(30 June 2012, 12:11)Tibbs735 Wrote: It is surprisingly easy to make things like ether and chloroform, the latter can be made with acetone and bleach!

not to mention things like explosives, like dynamite and all manner of other thigns, but i tihnk dynamites the easiest i mean honestly, fat + nitric acid + saw dust. how easy is that o.O but i wouldnt try that at home, like honestly its fucking unstableTongue....not as bad as nitrogen triiodide but not as far off as you'd like xD


RE: Post SHTF morphine. - Timelord - 30 June 2012

Well there is no point posting such high brow scientific links as that and expecting anyone other than a trained specialist [/i]to be able to use it as a guide... What is the point in that??


RE: Post SHTF morphine. - Hrusai - 30 June 2012

(30 June 2012, 15:15)Timelord Wrote: Well there is no point posting such high brow scientific links as that and expecting anyone other than a trained specialist [/i]to be able to use it as a guide... What is the point in that??

mate i didnt even get A-levels and i can get along with it fine Tongue

but ill find a simpler step by step guide...but there is a limit to how simple these things get, but i guess i could re-write the whole thingTongue


RE: Post SHTF morphine. - Timelord - 30 June 2012

"3. Synthesis via Eschenmoser-Claisen Rearrangement3

In addition to the cuprate chemistry we also used sigmatropic rearrangements to establish the benzylic quaternary stereocenter (Scheme 2). Diastereoselective reduction of 1 furnished the allylic alcohol 7 which underwent Eschenmoser-Claisen rearrangement to afford amide 8. Modification of the C2-side chain of 8, followed by diastereoselective epoxidation, then gave sulfonamide 9. Treatment of 9 with trifluoroacetic acid (TFA) in dry THF effected the desired ring closure with concomitant demethylation and provided the secondary alcohol 10. Finally, 10 was converted into the secomorphinane 4, thereby intercepting our previous synthetic route."

Right!!![/i]





RE: Post SHTF morphine. - Hrusai - 2 July 2012

ok so i might not be totally familiar with every specific type of chemical reaction or every single reagent, but the underlying point behind what its saying is very simple witha small amount of scientific knowledge Tongue......if you were more familiar with chemistry's semantics then you'd understand it fine Tongue

even if you just rewrite it to, reaction A give chemical A thats then used in reaction B etc. a small amount of research would tell you what each specific reaction or chemical was.

for instance the "benzylic quaternary stererocenter" is simply a molecule, more specifically one that is a ring of 4 carbon subtituents and when changing 2 groups can make a stereoisomer.

so the first sentence says they used cuprate chemistry and sigmatropic rearrangements to make a benzylic quartenary stereocenter....just reaarrange it a bit Tongue

maybe i am autistic Sad but i can understand it myself, and i find it hard to understand why others cant Tongue