Post SHTF morphine.

[Hrusai]

[Weyoun]

You can also buy morphine online from Canadian pharmacies.

[Hrusai]

to the uk?? im somewhat sceptical of that

[Tibbs735]

It is surprisingly easy to make things like ether and chloroform, the latter can be made with acetone and bleach!

[Timelord]

[Hrusai]

well im fairly sure im not, although due to recent events (e.g. the last 2-3 years of my life) this is actually beginning to be under question xDD......so you never know i may be

also im fairly well versed in these types of chemistry as i wasnt always as squeeky clean as i am now

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It is surprisingly easy to make things like ether and chloroform, the latter can be made with acetone and bleach!

not to mention things like explosives, like dynamite and all manner of other thigns, but i tihnk dynamites the easiest i mean honestly, fat + nitric acid + saw dust. how easy is that o.O but i wouldnt try that at home, like honestly its fucking unstable....not as bad as nitrogen triiodide but not as far off as you'd like xD

[Timelord]

Well there is no point posting such high brow scientific links as that and expecting anyone other than a trained specialist [/i]to be able to use it as a guide... What is the point in that??

[Hrusai]

Well there is no point posting such high brow scientific links as that and expecting anyone other than a trained specialist [/i]to be able to use it as a guide... What is the point in that??

mate i didnt even get A-levels and i can get along with it fine

but ill find a simpler step by step guide...but there is a limit to how simple these things get, but i guess i could re-write the whole thing

[Timelord]

"3. Synthesis via Eschenmoser-Claisen Rearrangement3

In addition to the cuprate chemistry we also used sigmatropic rearrangements to establish the benzylic quaternary stereocenter (Scheme 2). Diastereoselective reduction of 1 furnished the allylic alcohol 7 which underwent Eschenmoser-Claisen rearrangement to afford amide 8. Modification of the C2-side chain of 8, followed by diastereoselective epoxidation, then gave sulfonamide 9. Treatment of 9 with trifluoroacetic acid (TFA) in dry THF effected the desired ring closure with concomitant demethylation and provided the secondary alcohol 10. Finally, 10 was converted into the secomorphinane 4, thereby intercepting our previous synthetic route."

Right!!![/i]

[Hrusai]

ok so i might not be totally familiar with every specific type of chemical reaction or every single reagent, but the underlying point behind what its saying is very simple witha small amount of scientific knowledge ......if you were more familiar with chemistry's semantics then you'd understand it fine

even if you just rewrite it to, reaction A give chemical A thats then used in reaction B etc. a small amount of research would tell you what each specific reaction or chemical was.

for instance the "benzylic quaternary stererocenter" is simply a molecule, more specifically one that is a ring of 4 carbon subtituents and when changing 2 groups can make a stereoisomer.

so the first sentence says they used cuprate chemistry and sigmatropic rearrangements to make a benzylic quartenary stereocenter....just reaarrange it a bit

maybe i am autistic but i can understand it myself, and i find it hard to understand why others cant