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Front door security - NorthernRaider - 5 June 2013
Front door security
Apparently the lower forms of life have cottoned onto the fact that there are two major flaws with modern UPVC doors, one is many are designed with FIRE SAFETY in mind after pressure from the fire service and that means the bottom inset panel in many models can easily be kicked in to allow access for fire fighters (and thieves)
The other issue is the scum have realized that kicking or hammering at a front door makes lots of noise that can attract police or neighbourly attention, so some of the nasty little rodents have started burning their way through the doors with blow torches, melting / burning the upvc in one point until they can pull the door or panel apart.
Well the idea of someone setting fire to my front door after TSHTF rather concerning but an answer is available for those of us thinking about buying a new front door.
Its called a composite or laminated door. They look just like painted wood but are actually a wooden core with a steel sheet covering both side made to look like painted wood grain. Cost is about the same as a UPVC door but they are far more secure coming with BS3621 door locks and usually three x 100 mm steel and brass hinges.
If we installed such a door with 3 or 4 hinges screwed right through the frame and into the brickwork, and fitted a top and bottom long throw steel bolt we would have a very secure door by many peoples standards, its possibly a more low profile option than fitting a lockable security gate infront of your front door as is being done in many cities.
RE: Front door security - BeardyMan - 5 June 2013
No upvc door on the new place, just wood. Old wood at that.
Lots of people rent too, landlords get a bit funny about people swapping doors over.
You dont need to break the door to get in, you cam snap the cylinder in a normal lock in seconds, dont even need a pick.
Pre SHTF these are a good idea,if you have the money and are allowed to change the door, after the event if people are knocking on your door it may be too late
RE: Front door security - Straight Shooter - 5 June 2013
Well NR your in my next of the woods now pal, you are bang on, I have fabricated and installed thousands of PVCu doors windows and patios , thermal properties of PVCu and great and high....no maintenance easy to clean BUT a load of sh.t composite doors are the best by a mile for security, that's why I am about to change my doors, as part of my security measures, by the way there are easier ways in through a PVCu door but I will not tell it here
RE: Front door security - NorthernRaider - 5 June 2013
(5 June 2013, 20:07)Straight Shooter Wrote: Well NR your in my next of the woods now pal, you are bang on, I have fabricated and installed thousands of PVCu doors windows and patios , thermal properties of PVCu and great and high....no maintenance easy to clean BUT a load of sh.t composite doors are the best by a mile for security, that's why I am about to change my doors, as part of my security measures, by the way there are easier ways in through a PVCu door but I will not tell it here
You do know what you have just volunteered to do
doncha A professionals review of which are the best types / makes of Composite doors Pretty Please??????
RE: Front door security - Straight Shooter - 5 June 2013
Oh shit !
RE: Front door security - NorthernRaider - 5 June 2013
Hey I bow to your greater knowledge and experience and humbly ask you help advise us on Compo Doors ??
Respects
NR
We have such a broad range of untapped skills among our members
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Your the first door and window techy I know.
RE: Front door security - Highlander - 5 June 2013
I would also like to know more about doors and their security, I have a modern pvc door with a glass pane in it,.. so it might well find itself being changed
RE: Front door security - NorthernRaider - 5 June 2013
I was gobsmacked when i read in some trade rag that UPVC doors are meant to be moderately easy for firemen to boot in !!!
RE: Front door security - Skean Dhude - 11 June 2013
It is the riskless society we live in. Burglary rarely leads to death. Being trapped in burning buildings does it on a regular basis. It is a no brainer from that perspective.
Personally, I want to have broken doors after TSHTF and then replace them with something a bit more robust so on my list is the doors and the capability to replace them.
RE: Front door security - SecretPrepper - 11 June 2013
Can someone advise me on a company or website that is a good place for composite doors