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RE: Mental Health Post SHTF - Jonas - 6 June 2014
For those with bipolar disorders, once the meds run out, those folks are toast. The whole post-SHTF period will be a massive "Darwin Award" contest...
RE: Mental Health Post SHTF - Mortblanc - 6 June 2014
I am old enough to remember the era before ADHD, ADD and all the other alphabet labels that got the schools special funding.
Kids learned to control themselves, or wished they had. They channeled all that excess energy into sports and play.
They won sports scholarships to major universities due to their excess energy level.
Then when they graduated they got another label I remember well from Psych class back in the 1960s,
THE TYPE A PERSONALITY!!!
The over achiever that became the corporate CEO, got rich, married the trophy wife and retired to his own estate on a Caribbean island.
Usually while in that early retirement stage he set speed records, climbed unconquered peaks, led revolutions that changed the boundaries of nations and called up Prime Ministers and told them what they were going to do next.
Sadly enough, we now medicate the people that won our wars, built empires and shaped the world.
RE: Mental Health Post SHTF - MaryN - 7 June 2014
Well. Scythe, I would imagine that those folks suffering from some mental illness would continue to be cared for by their families post SHTF. I've only ever had to deal with people suffering from depression and PTSD, and I know how difficult that can be, particularly as they are often conditions where the sufferer does not look any different. I agree with Jonas and BP, anyone needing complicated medications is probably not going to survive for long on an ongoing basis - unless of course bhy some miracle they had access to their meds.
To be honest, I doubt if many people could (or possibly would want to) deal with the really mentally ill - psychotics or bi-polar - it would be too difficult to manage, and the stress involved would, I suspect, knock any attempt to be kindly on the head. If you think about some of the mentally ill folks "released" into the community (and unfortunately some of the things they get up to), the thought of trying to control them would be a non-starter for me.
I suspect that many of the more minor conditions, like ADHD and such are "made up" and would probably fade away under conditions of real life. The treatment of them at the moment may provide a few shrinks with a pretty good living.
I suspect that the main mental health issues post SHTF will mainly be stress-related, i.e. PTSD or depression.
Just my opinions, you understand.
RE: Mental Health Post SHTF - Jonas - 11 June 2014
Mary, with all the news recently, could I have PTSD (Pre-Traumatic Stress Syndrome)?
RE: Mental Health Post SHTF - bigpaul - 12 June 2014
surely we wont have time to get stressed, we'll be too busy even to think about it. mind you I think my S-I-L is a prime candidate for something like this-most of the family think she's "lost it" already!
I've said in the past i'll give her a week post SHTF!
RE: Mental Health Post SHTF - Midnitemo - 13 June 2014
There's a lot of flaky people out there right now with the current state of affairs , just imagine how many are gonna go postal if you increase the stress and pressure tenfold.....normal life in all senses of the word will go out the window.....these occasional freak outbursts of angst by random individuals were seeing currently will escalate dramatically.
RE: Mental Health Post SHTF - CharlesHarris - 13 June 2014
While I have no statistics for the UK, based on law enforcement studies in the US, one person in ten is either chemically dependent, has a personality disorder or is potentially violent, so that they would pose a threat.
They are out there!
RE: Mental Health Post SHTF - CharlesHarris - 13 June 2014
RE: Mental Health Post SHTF - Tartar Horde - 14 June 2014
Psychiatry is not an Empirical science, it is quackery based on the writings of a sexually repressed cocaine addict called Freud. The subject has been controlled and driven by Governments who use it as another weapon. In brief: utter bullshit.
RE: Mental Health Post SHTF - Mortblanc - 14 June 2014
It might seem that way to those that do not work in or around the field.
Psych really does have it uses, but not in a way that we have come to expect from medical science.
Psych does a fantastic job of diagnosing and labeling mental disorders. Those disorders can then be medicated and proper supervision maintained over the patient.
The problem is that those disorders are inside a human brain and they have no mechanical means of making repairs that is acceptable to society.
It is like going to an oncologist and he tells you there is cancer in your body. He has no cure. He can operate, but it will leave you an unthinking husk of an animal that is not quite human, or you can go home and die on your own.
When the psych practitioner is used as a diagnostic aid for prediction of behaviors and treatment to the levels that we do have available it is a valuable service. You can not medicate patients and maintain control of them with out an official diagnosis.
The problem comes when a psych decides they can "CURE" a patient. Or that a patient is "CURED" and can be released into society with no restraints.
Keep in mind that psychs are medical doctors first, and have their own mental health issues and "God Complexes" to deal with.
People in these "help professions" tend to be drawn by the problems in themselves that directed their attention to a specific field.
I have worked around a lot of them and they tend to be crazy as a sack of bats!