(18 January 2013, 18:24)bigpaul Wrote: i have to say i can see why Moslem men do not "respect" white women, just look around any city on a friday/saturday night and you will see them stoned and drunk rolling around the street with all the flesh on display, i dont think they do themselves any favours! i can quite see how Moslems refer to Westerners as "decadent and unclean", dosent excuse the way Moslem men behave but "i can see where their coming from" if you know what i mean.
But why have no respect for them? Respect them enough to respect that they are doing what they want to to do and dressing how they want to, otherwise you are projecting your own values onto someone that clearly does not share them.
Sure, if someone is being hypocritical, that deserves a lack of respect, but if someone is making a concious choice to do something, it is not for you to be disrespectful of them, but of the acts they do.
It makes me laugh that a lot of religions have the idea 'hate the sin, not the sinner', Islam included.
You will see a war between Muslims and non Muslims in France before we do here, and I do think in all likelihood, the radicals will go there to be killed or go to a predominantly Muslim country.
The rest - well, they will integrate more into society I think, a lot more. Most of the muslims I know, when out with non muslims, will drink, some to the point of drunkenness, only thing restricting them is culture rather than religion.
We need to get the buggers eating pork to be really sure tho.