Brexit woe

[Devonian]

Its done now, the route is being laid, the UK if flucked...enough said on the issue.

Totally disagree, Brexit finally gives us the chance to try and stop the socialist rot from taking over and completely ruining the country.

This could potentially be a new dawn for the UK - wait and see how many other EU Countries follow us....

[MaryN]

Quite agree, Dev. I admit to having a nervous moment before the vote when the polls were leaning towards Remain, but commonsense prevailed (thank goodness!). Roll up sleeves now and get on with it.

[harrypalmer]

Sadly, common sense did not prevail.

You are right Mary, time to roll up sleeves and try and salvage what we can from this disaster, thankfully I'll have left the UK and won't have to deal with the fall out on a daily basis or be governed by UKIP...thats the way the UK is now heading. Socialist rot or right wing rot and paranoia? I'll take the Socialist route everytime.

[Devonian]

Sadly, common sense did not prevail.

You are right Mary, time to roll up sleeves and try and salvage what we can from this disaster, thankfully I'll have left the UK and won't have to deal with the fall out on a daily basis or be governed by UKIP...thats the way the UK is now heading. Socialist rot or right wing rot and paranoia? I'll take the Socialist route everytime.

Harry, why do "you" feel that common sense has not prevailed, the majority of the population and the (vast) majority of SUK totally disagree with you and see Brexit as a positive move forward for the future??

What has happened is a new dawn for the UK, not a disaster! again perhaps you could expand on why you feel this?

And as for being ruled by UKIP, how could that ever happen? UKIP have a single MP (out of a total of 650 MP's), so UKIP's parliamentary influence is essentially zero! Parts of all the major parties are anti-EU, it is not all down to UKIP.

[LawAbidingCitizen]

[MaryN]

In my personal view, the awful thing about the Remain crew is that they aree peddling this myth of a European utopia that simply does not exist. I suspect that most of them have never lived in another EU country - probably the best they can say is that they enjoyed a 2 week holiday every year in Ibiza and enjoyed the sun, booze and phone signal for their Facebook links. The youth unemployment rate in most of the EU is terrible, and black marketeering is rife just for people to survive. The UK is the strongest economy in this crap institution, and it is not because of the EU. We are an experienced, democratic trading nation. We have clout and an attitude that says we will prevail.

In the part of France I lived in for years, the political climate has changed dramatically. What started off as a comfortable little mix of Socialist and Conservative is now solidly FN. People are pissed off. Our farmer neighbours despaired of ever moving forward - EU rules and bureaucracy trapped them in a cycle of dependency and regulations. I suspect there are more French than UK citizens who would like to escape, but they did not get a vote. We have been fantastically lucky to be able to exit. And it is not just France. In Spain the youngsters would be lucky to get a decent job at all. Why do you think so many try to get to the UK? They may only get jobs as waiters or suchlike, but that is better than they will get at home. It is ok for those with money - the same everywhere - but what about the normal people who have to graft for their living?

The EU, in my opinion (and experience of living over the Channel) is going to tank big time. The cracks are widening and the plebs are gvetting restless. Better out when it crashes.

[Skean Dhude]

The polls show that the French were 63% for out compared to our 52%. Pear in mind it is a poll. So feelings are stronger over there. There have already been moves for a Referendum in France and the Netherlands. We have shown you can escape the EUSSR and others are following.

[LawAbidingCitizen]

In my personal view, the awful thing about the Remain crew is that they aree peddling this myth of a European utopia that simply does not exist. I suspect that most of them have never lived in another EU country - probably the best they can say is that they enjoyed a 2 week holiday every year in Ibiza and enjoyed the sun, booze and phone signal for their Facebook links. The youth unemployment rate in most of the EU is terrible, and black marketeering is rife just for people to survive. The UK is the strongest economy in this crap institution, and it is not because of the EU. We are an experienced, democratic trading nation. We have clout and an attitude that says we will prevail.

In the part of France I lived in for years, the political climate has changed dramatically. What started off as a comfortable little mix of Socialist and Conservative is now solidly FN. People are pissed off. Our farmer neighbours despaired of ever moving forward - EU rules and bureaucracy trapped them in a cycle of dependency and regulations. I suspect there are more French than UK citizens who would like to escape, but they did not get a vote. We have been fantastically lucky to be able to exit. And it is not just France. In Spain the youngsters would be lucky to get a decent job at all. Why do you think so many try to get to the UK? They may only get jobs as waiters or suchlike, but that is better than they will get at home. It is ok for those with money - the same everywhere - but what about the normal people who have to graft for their living?

The EU, in my opinion (and experience of living over the Channel) is going to tank big time. The cracks are widening and the plebs are gvetting restless. Better out when it crashes.

Exactly Mary, it was going to collapse anyway and us being out before the inevitable happens gives us more time to plan and start trading with others nations before that happens.

On another note, I see Mr Obama seems more conciliatory now, stating the special relationship will endure. Of course it will son, you're hardly going to stop selling Yankee dollars to UK Banks in exchange for bonds now are you?

[CharlesHarris]

[MaryN]

Oh God, Merkel and her fantasy of being well-loved! I think she quite relishes being called "Mutti" (Mummy) by the refugees. She may not survive another election. Actually, at this rate, the EU is on the way out. Yay!