Some sense at last

[Stokey]

(12 April 2012, 02:48)Timelord Wrote:

(11 April 2012, 15:14)Skean Dhude Wrote:

(10 April 2012, 21:38)Stokey Wrote: For the US to extradite a British Citizen the illegal crime in the US must also have to be illegal here as well.

Unless of course the crime was comitted on thier soil.

None of the above. He isn't the first and he won't be the last to face justice like this.

The British courts/government have just extradited a young guy to the USA for computer software copyright infingement. It was all over the news for a few weeks last month. The guy committed no crime in the UK and in fact the only infingement was that there were "links" on his website to material that the USA big corporate companies regard as their copyrighted material. His extradition was fought against in the UK courts, but the judges ruled he still had to be extradited due to the fact the USA had followed the correct legal channels to serve the warrant on him and our courts had to honour the extradition treaty agreement in place at the moment.
So the statement about a citizen who's action in the UK which is regarded as a crime in the US, also having to be an action that is illegal in the UK for the extradition to be valid - Is Incorrect.

This is a big deal really and is another instance of why the Parliamentary Committee announced yesterday that they would be investigating the apparent imbalance of fairness in the present extradition treaty with the US with a view to reviewing it legally.

Hoorah for that! there are some good guys up there. Not enough, but some..

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Another related point :-

A month or so ago, the Obama administration managed to roll through the Senate a bill which grants the US military the power to arrest anyone, military or CIVILIAN for any action that the Government (executive order or otherwise) declares to be an action against the security of the US.

Now folks, notice the "CIVILIAN" part - the military were never allowed to arrest civilians in normal peactime outside of any military action or property. This was a part of the Constitution & the seperation of powers etc.

Also - This rule applies to anyone - ANYWHERE!
Yes, anywhere in the world. So the US elite now think they can use their military enforcers to swoop in & pick up anyone, even in the UK. Ok, so you have rights here in the UK.... Some help they will be when you are bundled into a car or plane. By the time any British Bobbies turn up, you will be half way across the Atlantic. These actions will be covert and kept off the public radar. The British government would not want an incident like this to get politicized.

Maybe it won't happen. who knows? BUT, why pass the laws in Congress if there was no need or intention to utilize them.

Now, I'll just go see who's that knock at the door..... ......

computer software copyright infingement is illegal in the UK, The UK didnt initiate proceedings because the so called injured party wasnt a UK company, it was american, They accepted the extradition case because if found guilty he had perpertrated a crime that would be punishable under British laws as well if the complainant had been british.