(16 September 2012, 21:37)Carnebwen Wrote: Depends which bit you read.
Its not in order. The bits that were written when Islam were not powerful and only a handfull of people preach tolerance and "hey cant we all get along". Once Islam had a decent sized number of followers the new verses "sword verses" are a bit more antagonistic. Later verses over right earlier parts. These are in the hadith and sura (I forget which is which) but they are either notes ol' Mo wrote himself or other peoples stories about hanging around with him in his adventures.
Check this documentary. Sorry its over an hour long :/ worth a watch, though from what I have read above many of you don't need any convincing to think the way you already do.
islam: what the west needs to know
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krvCQbzPKiI
Absolutely right, and in many cases the "peaceful" verses are abrogated (overruled) by the more violent, contradictory verses.
This is one of the great jokes of the Quran - it is supposed to be the exact Word of Allah, spoken through Mohammed, yet it's filled with contradictions. Muslims deny there are ANY contradictions whatsoever and do mental gymnastics to try and prove it, but the fact that almost all islamic scholars accept abrogation in the Quran implies it has inherent contradictions.
The best verse on this in the Quran:
"2:106:
None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten,
but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?"
In other words, the Quran doesn't abrogate any of it's scripture... except for the parts it does
Oh, and Suras = chapters of the Quran. Hadith = supposed sayings of Mohammed and stories of his life, but were written after he died and so are considered a distant second in terms of authority to the Quran.
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