(18 November 2012, 20:59)NorthernRaider Wrote: Well to be honest I see Israel not as the innocent victim of Hamas but being as equally bad, They rightly whinge about HAMAS firing rockets into Israel, but they are still stealing more and more palestinian land to build setttlements on. And the Israelis carrying out terrorist attacks on Palestinians rarely gets mentioned either.
But for me Israel is as bad as any other hate filled bigoted entity who I have no love for, world peace would be greatly enhanced if both sides wiped each other out.
Paul I note your point most emphatically about you being wiling to see cluster bombs being used on civilian targets, perhaps you will gain some satifaction from seeing inncoent kids picking the unexploded ones up and blowing themselves up.
BOMBING, SHELLING and FIRING MISSILES into civilian areas is a WAR CRIME and MURDER by both sides , its NEVER self defence.
And dont forget the IRA learned its terror tactics from the Stern Gang and the other Israeli terror groups who murdered hundreds of British troops sent to p[rotect them.
I assume that Paul would then agree that if Scots nationalist, OR IRA types or Sons of Owain Glyndwr shot up or blew up someone in England the right response would be to bombard Belfast, Dublin, Cardiff , Swansea, Edinburgh and Glasgow with high explosive artilery??
I'll remember that if some terrorist blows up a family member.
Mustn't get angry and exact retribution on their families because it ain't "the dun thing". Still you might change your mind if it's one of yours. There again, would you? Rules of engagement, honor, moral high ground and all that crap.
AS for playing by the international rules of war with terrorists?
The IRA didn't. They killed over 700 UK soldiers and 1800 odd civilians? 2500 souls.
The 7/7 Terrorists didn't. They killed 52.
Lets also count all the lads and lassies lost in Afghanistan to terrorists, bombs, and the green on blue crap.
3,027 coalition deaths to date.
Civilians? Dunno, wiki says thousands.
All killings done by terrorists following their international laws, rules of engagements and being VERY careful to only target legitimate targets for them, non combatant males, women, and children.
I'm done here.