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(23 May 2012, 08:43)Skean Dhude Wrote: Sorry. Got to disagree.

1) The BBC takes its money from you with the forxce of law, the same force used by the government and the councils in many ways. The Telegraph, Mail, Sun, etc. cannot demand you pay them because you read newspapers. So it is a government body.

2) There are many things not reported in the media and this is because the media is incestuous. With its large group of journalists the BBC leads the news and influence policy. Look at the way they attack people doing perfectly legal tax avoidance. Helping the government, yet they are nowhere to be seen while the Government introduces a police state with laws and processes that makes the soviet union envious. In fact they bias the news they have to support all the laws.

Sure, like lovers, the have the occasional spat and they don't like some individuals but in general they cuddle up in bed together and screw us all.

In saying that. I have noticed a tendency to kick Cameron, who imo deserves it, while they let Gordo screw us over without a word. But that is more to do with the BBC being full of whingey whiney lefties than a journalistic moral.

As far as I am concerned they are all not doing their jobs and the BBC has the balls to charge us for their crap service just because they have the nice shiny sites and media platforms.

Disagreeing makes threads more fun

Your point 1 is exactly why I laughed. The government control the licence fee, and the BBC really comes across as a Government mouthpiece... but it just doesn't work like that. UK law is very strict for broadcast journalism, and these are the real constraints for what is broadcast. These laws don't change on Government whims. The only thing that seems to actually make a difference between the BBC and interdependent broadcast media is the policy for a higher percentage of Educational programming. I'm sure we all enjoyed 'Super Volcano'.

Being pissed off about having to pay a licence fee (aren't we all), is a very tenuous reason to doubt the quality of their journalism.

But yes, the BBC is full of "whingey whiney lefties" I can't argue with that point.

I'm not trying to defend the BBC, I worked for independent media, but I'm am letting people know, from the inside, how it really works. No point in making up new enemies when there are enough real ones.

When listening to the news, you need to know where they're coming from. And truly, if you are listening to the radio on 5 Live, you will get a left wing bias, but they couldn't give a fudge what the people in the current cabinet want them to say.

"The Telegraph, Mail, Sun, etc" report very differently because the laws for print media give them a lot more freedom. A LOT more. The two types of reporting aren't really comparable. This has nothing to do with the licencee fee.

So yes, you will get sensationalism and scaremongering, yes you will start to find ethnic minorities appear to be in the majority, but NO you won't find the agenda of the current political party being pushed on you.

Yes, thing aren't reported... but that is the dame on channel four as much as the BBC. Radio news goes more in depth into the things not covered on TV though. It is good to keep an eye on multiple media sources.

Again, I am not a BBC loyalist... but I do know, very well, how news gets from event happening to the script ready on the News desk... and it's not via number 10.

The bias you talk of towards current law and the police is certainly there. But again this is not to do with the licence fee and 'Government control'. It's to do with the fact that most of the info from these stories comes from the police to start with. This is again for all broadcast media, not just the BBC. The police do have quite a powerful sway on news. But again the police push their agenda, which is not necessarily the Government line.
If anyone is interested I can explain how the police exercise their influence over the news.
Not as interesting as videos 'proving' that the BBC are in on a Sept the 11th conspiracy... but unlike that, it may actually be useful information

BBC guidelines for writing scripts are funny though. There's a whole section on acceptable and not acceptable terms to use when discussing genitalia.