Iran? Nukes? Unlikely?

[Scythe13]

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NC15Ak01.html

Have a little read. The whole thing seems a bit shakey now.

Iran could possibly have no nuclear warhead facility or even a nuclear weapons program. But will we still go to war with them?

[NorthernRaider]

Its still very likely the Yanks will attack on two grounds (A) Cos their Israeli master tell them to, (B) because of US economic policy, IE Every time the US has major domestic economic problems they like to divert public attenttion onto some foreign bogeyman.

[Scythe13]

(14 March 2012, 09:35)NorthernRaider Wrote: (B) because of US economic policy, IE Every time the US has major domestic economic problems they like to divert public attenttion onto some foreign bogeyman.

Oddly enough, that is one of the major things that caused the collapse of other super-powers other the last 500 years. The foreign interests of a country growing, along with foreign wars that have no end in site, all coupled with a weakening domestic financial situation.

Looks like America is going the same way as the Russians, Mongolians, Hungarians, Prussians, Romans, and others. The question really is, will America vanish like Prussia or the Persians (as a nation, they've vanished from anything worthwhile), or will the Yanks simply become smaller players in the world game, like Spain and England did when they used to be super powers?

[NorthernRaider]

(14 March 2012, 09:42)Scythe13 Wrote:

(14 March 2012, 09:35)NorthernRaider Wrote: (B) because of US economic policy, IE Every time the US has major domestic economic problems they like to divert public attenttion onto some foreign bogeyman.

Oddly enough, that is one of the major things that caused the collapse of other super-powers other the last 500 years. The foreign interests of a country growing, along with foreign wars that have no end in site, all coupled with a weakening domestic financial situation.

Looks like America is going the same way as the Russians, Mongolians, Hungarians, Prussians, Romans, and others. The question really is, will America vanish like Prussia or the Persians (as a nation, they've vanished from anything worthwhile), or will the Yanks simply become smaller players in the world game, like Spain and England did when they used to be super powers?

Yup on average every 20 years the Yanks find a new bad guy to hate.

Native Americans, Brits, French, Spanish, Mexicans, Canadians, Germans, Russians, Communists, Japanese,Chinese, Koreans, Maoists,Laotians, Vietnamese,Columbians, Venezualans,Cubans, Iranians, Eyerabs, muslims, The UN, Serbians, Blacks, Hispanics, Protestants, You name it a hickup in US economics usually leads to someone getting attacked.

[mikebratcher69]

I think it was all a ploy to get into Iran for the oil, like they did in Iraq.
It's just now you notice more people are aware of what they're doing it for and aren't as blind to the government being their friend as they'd like you to believe... the government always reminds me of that hypnotic snake, Sir Hiss in the cartoon version of robin hood http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gknOxvRE...re=related

It's amazing with Obama how as more and more came out of the falseness of the Iran situation and them having no nukes and his current Impeachment proceedings by congress how its all gone quiet.
One thing I will say is, there may be a last ditch attempt at war soon as the uss enterprise is steaming it's way backto Iran.

The reason this is so significant is that the enterprise is a nuclear carrier at the end of it's life and is due to be decomissioned at great expense.

There has already been great speculation about the us sinking its own ship, as this would serve two purposes, one being the ageing carrier is to be sunk thereby taking the expensive decomissioning out of u.s. hands thereby saving them millions.

secondly it would give them an excuse to invade the country that sank it.

Now whether this will happen or not is a debate in its self.
whether you believe the government conspires to destabilise the midle east or not is up to you.
I know there are facts, such as Iraq stopped selling oil in dollars and started selling in euros.
U.S. special forces took control of the oil wells after first blowing them up.
The U.S. then passed back control of the oil wells to a U.S. friendly government on condition it sold oil in dollars again.
The U.S. prints of vast ammounts of funny money to fund C.I.A. operations and buying of foreign goods which then cost nothing as they print funny money to pay for it so basicaly the goods are free.
China quite happily took all the funny money the U.S. gave them.
China has been buying vast swathes of land and building etc in the states and paying in cash (funny money that the u.s. payed them)
thereby puting vast ammount of cash back into circulation to destabilise the u.s. economy.
It only doesnt destabilise the economy if your a good boy and when the nice chinese man passes you a million dollars for your house and land that you pay it into the bank which then enables the banks to hold onto the money and or destroy it and its like it was never even there...
But if your a bit of a naughty boy and spend it and it gets into circulation, that then destabilises the economy, thats what is happening now.
If you believe the current theories circulating the web that Obama's trying to destroy the U.S. constitution and the right to bear arms etc which again has been proved with operation fast and furious,( for those of you who dont know, the U.S. government has been caught red handed supplying millitary grade assault weapons to the mexican drug cartels, who then run the U.s> border starting firefights with border residents and law enforcement, generaly causing mayhem, which then gets calls for tighter gun control and more powers to law enforcement etc...) and the government buying shares in ammunition companies and back door shutting them down, and making it mandatory to have a fingerprint scan to buy ammo. Everybody here in the u.k. thinks this all has nothing to do with us, but it does we are the 51st state in all but name, we're the tail on the U.S. dog and we're quite happily wagging as we go. We now have water cannon being bought, tear gas, and the general calling for all police officers to be armed with tazers. I saw a progran the other day about the armed police, it showed the racks of guns in the armoury, baring in mind theres not that many armed officers about, no word of a lie there was a rack of at least 30 to 30 glocks and the same for the machine pistols.
Who are they for?
What do they need that many glocks and machine pistols for?
They had about as many as a local T.A. armoury.
Check out pictures of the u.k. armed police they wear the same stuff the U.S. police used to wear, they never used too.
The U.S. police are militarising wearing combats. Our police force is about to be privatised by group 4 the worlds biggest private security company. Water cannon to supress public disorder, tear gas to supress public disorder, tazers to supress public disorder, Falls road coming to a street near you SOON.