El Oucho

[NorthernRaider]

Sky News 7Pm tonight Spanish unemployment has topped 24.8% and they are going to have to slash another 39 Billion Euro off their public spending, The Spaniards are a lot more agressive than the Greeks, i think we could see fireworks.

[Madgirl151]

It may be a stupid question but, What exactly happens if a country goes bankrupt???

[NorthernRaider]

MG It depends it could go the way of post WW1 germany with hyper inflation ( 8 Am loaf of bread costs £500, by noon its a £1000) Thousands on the streets homeless, no dole, no child benefits, no sickness or disability allowance, no pensions, fuel unaffordable. This usually is followed by an extreme government getting in in the Germans case it was the Nazis, in Russias case it was far far worse it was the communist socialists. Nowt get planted tended, made or grown, no fuiel gets delivered no power generated etc etc

Or it could lead to civil war as happened in Spain in the 30s, Or total collpase of government and law and order like Somalia, No very nice things overall, In places in europe in the 30s mums were forced to sell their pretteens virginity for HALF a loaf of bread or a couple of spuds.

If it doesnt get violent the government will become totalitarian, all foods siezed, you work for food, curfews, martial law, protestors and objectors shot.
I'm afraid the only people completely unaffected by this misery will be the usual suspects. Party Activists, Politicians, Trade Union leaders, Bankers, The Rich and those with the most guns.

They old adage of " Those who have the weapons make the rules" dominates.

Its also why most long in the tooth old school preppers spend so much time trying to persuade young preppers to do what ever it takes but get the F*** out of the cities. My Grandad had friends on the Jarrow march, The pictures and stories he told me about REAL poverty in the NE made my blood run cold.

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Forgot to say the only STUPID question on a prepper forum is the one you dont ask.

[Madgirl151]

Thanks, so if it keeps going the way it is in greece and spain, wont that inflame other countries to kick off since as far as i can tell no one is that far behind them....?

[NorthernRaider]

(27 September 2012, 20:07)Madgirl151 Wrote: Thanks, so if it keeps going the way it is in greece and spain, wont that inflame other countries to kick off since as far as i can tell no one is that far behind them....?

Yes Ma'am it will, These southern European nations are only just surviving because mad bastards like Cameron, Milliband, Brown, Blair, Merkel, Sarkosy, Hollande etc keep pouring BILLIONS of pounds and Euros from northern european nations to keep them going.
Sooner or later they will run out of money to give em or they will decide to stop bailing them out and southern Europe will ignite.}

This will cause a flipping huge economic collapse across the world, and will see millions of starving unemployed Greeks, Portugese, Spaniards etc heading north to France, Germany and Britain in the first wave. This will be followed by a second wave as millions of north Africans and middle easterners flood in through the southern borders and head this way as well.

Naturally the socialists will say " welcome them all, if you dont your a racist" Then its highly likely the north eurpeans will finally revolt and attack the immigrants (and hopefully the socialists).

This week our PM has promised to give £12 billion in foreign aid and £12 Billion for EU membership, he does it with the full support of Labour and the Liberals. £24 Billion pounds he is giving away at the same time as cutting £20 billions pounds from the NHS.

Question for you mon cheri, How many doctors, nurses, teachers, cops and firemen can you buy with £24 billion pounds?

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Europe is skint its an undemocratic totalitarian socialst super state who own accountants have refused to sign off its own accounts. being typical lefties and liberals they have been eaerning for example £500 billion a year for the last 30 years, but spending £1000 billion on public schemes. Your three beautiful children already owe the government thousands of pounds each in income tax. All three parties in the UK and the EU have left our kids a legacy of debt and nothing else.

Watcha think will happen when the giros and benefit payment get cut or stopped cos the government has got nowt left. Cameron is actually borrowing money to give away to other countries asnd giving you the bill.

[Madgirl151]

And then you add in the middle east situation which I have also been following and you start to wonder how long we have left??? I cant imagine that will take long since israel are now trying to pin down the rest of the world to stop iran making nukes.....

[NorthernRaider]

(27 September 2012, 20:40)Madgirl151 Wrote: And then you add in the middle east situation which I have also been following and you start to wonder how long we have left??? I cant imagine that will take long since israel are now trying to pin down the rest of the world to stop iran making nukes.....

Your missing the point I fear mon petite ami We dont have any time left the collapse started 2 years ago when the country ran out of money, politicians refused to listen to the public, our youngsters found that they could not get mortgages or loans and if they could they could not get mortgages. It started when Labour opened the borders to let millions of often hostile migrants into the UK to take the lower paid jobs that sustained much of the country outside London, It started when the cops shot J C Menezes dead and got promoted instead of imprisoned. It started when they cut the flood budget, when they refused to deport thousands of hostile muslims, when they refused a referendum on the EU. It started when no one was bothered that over 250 kids in one year had been stabbed in London, It started when the black gangsters torched Tottenham and the police ran away. Dont expect a sudden life changing event to hit like a holywood movie, this collapse is more like a cancer, slowly creeping and eating away at you from the inside.

Time for your homework, if you have time get onto google and look up White Flight from London, Iceberg housing, Gated Communities then you will see that the ruling elite and middle classes are bugging out their own way, no longer is is Posh BMWs and Chelsea postcodes the must haves. Its 4x4s and small holding in Dorset and Hampshire thats the in thing.

Ever wondered why London is so desperate for professionals such as engineers, doctors, archetects, cops, lawyers etc, its cos they have all buggered off as fast they can from the home counties, the less fortunate commute or keep a pad in the city but more and more people are getting out of dodge.

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that should read could not afford house and if they could they couldnt get mortgages.

[Straight Shooter]

more fresh air nr love it and totally agree

[Prepper1]

Don't forget in the 50's all the European countries got together and decided for us that a Europe that was one big country and one currency was what was best and that is what they want still.
If the European union collapses they'll ride to the rescue claiming we weren't integrated enough before and the best way forward is complete integration. It was falling apart for them with all the nation wanting independence, look at Britain for example, for years more and more people are demanding separation from Brussels and the E.U
They cant and wont have that.
That's what they're after with the armed forces as well, why do you think they're cutting them?
When anything happens and we cant defend ourselves, Cameron will go running to the E.U. and NATO for help telling everyone its for the best.
Then the sheeple will cry out to be saved and see that the holy E.U and the one European nation and the one European currency with a one European Army and Air force, Navy and Police is the only way to go.
Then they'll get their way with the one united Europe they've always wanted.