150,000 dole claiment sign off when asked to work

[NorthernRaider]

An interesting social commentary, 150,000 sign off because they are encouraged to do job placements etc.
YES a great percentage will be parasitic scrounging scum, BUT also I feel that because of the appaling mess created mainly by Labour but also compounded by the tories and liberals that two things have become seriously wrong with our nation and economy.

First i think its utterly wrong that for generations those same three parties have encouraged people to study, work hard, get degrees , serve apprenticships and becom highly skilled specialist artisans only to be told that because the various govts have let our industries moved abroad they should now take menial jobs in field they have no interest or experience in.

Second how the hell can a British worker compete in the jobs market when so many foreign workers will come here and work longer hours for less money than our people do, then when they go home each crimbo they can reclaim the Income Tax and VAT they paid into our system.

We should condemn the scroungers christ knows theres enough of em, personally I would evict em and use em to clear mines in Afghanistan, BUT equally the huge numbers of honest decent dard working unemployed tradesmen and specialists should not be forced into menial jobs they were not trained to do.

Our employment issues can in my opinion be resolved in two steps
Firt get out of the EU and save the £53 million pounds a DAY membership money and spend that on the public sectors schools, hospitals roads, buses etc.
Second we must pass one simple law saying that every business, shop and company operating inside the UK must sell at least say 45% British made goods and equipment, thus kickstarting our domestic manufacturing base the big three let die. Once we are making stuff again we will soon get full unemployment again and then tax rates can be slashed.





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[Straight Shooter]

Be careful what you wish for, trade war leads to world war... but yes get out of the EU NOW

[Metroyeti]

I know a bricklayer who had his money stopped for not applying for work. He politley told them that was all he had done since leaving school, and they said it wasnt good enough and he had to apply for jobs unrelated to his trade.

Also know someone whos benefits were stopped for doing to much voluntry work, seems a bit daft but your only allowed to do x amount of hours, unless they send you to do voluntry work you will get penalized.

[bigpaul]

why should having SOME British manufacturing at home start a trade war??

[I-K-E]

Just an quick question as I've no idea

what impact would leaving the EU have on the economy of the UK? How much of the UK's business would be screwed on leaving the EU?

I'm not on either side of the fence when it comes to the EU but at the moment I've no idea on the the impact on leaving it

[NorthernRaider]

Many nations like France and Germany took protectionist policies to look after some of their own industries, EG both provided their steel makers with free of heavily subsidised power supplies for the blast furnaces, which made them cheaper than British steel !!!. Spains airlines recieved subsidies that BA were denied. Bethlehem steel in the US got cheap power and import tarriffs on British steel were levied by the yanks. So most nations take some steps.

[bigpaul]

(25 November 2012, 13:57)I-K-E Wrote: Just an quick question as I've no idea

what impact would leaving the EU have on the economy of the UK? How much of the UK's business would be screwed on leaving the EU?

I'm not on either side of the fence when it comes to the EU but at the moment I've no idea on the the impact on leaving it

i think we do about 40-50% of our exporting to the EU, however you have got to remember we are a NET payer to the EU-i.e. we pay them more than we get back in grants, subsidies etc unlike some other countries.

[NorthernRaider]

(25 November 2012, 13:57)I-K-E Wrote: Just an quick question as I've no idea

what impact would leaving the EU have on the economy of the UK? How much of the UK's business would be screwed on leaving the EU?

I'm not on either side of the fence when it comes to the EU but at the moment I've no idea on the the impact on leaving it

Trade wise there should be very little affect on our economy because we are one of Europes biggest customers, do you think they will stop selling stuff to us because we level the playing field.

Some burocrats will lose their lavish tax free jobs.

if we went back to free trade with the EU it would also mean we can recommence trading with our comonwealth without being hit with fines and import limits.

Our fisheries would become solely British again so the trawler fleet would have to grow again.

Just think what job creation we could do with another 53 million a DAY to spend at home.

Just think what our tradesmen could do when not trying to compete with van loads of polish workers who will work for a pittance.

OR

Look at it this way, Before we joined the EU the UK had a thriving though difficult economy, but when we joined we were immediately much wrse off cos we were banned from buying cheap butter, cheese, milk, beef, lamb, timber, coal etc from the Commonwealth.

Economically its makes sense to get out because in simple terms we pay in far more than we get back out.

[I-K-E]

Thanks NR, BP

I can see us leaving the EU at the moment though

[Barneyboy]

(25 November 2012, 13:54)Metroyeti Wrote: I know a bricklayer who had his money stopped for not applying for work. He politley told them that was all he had done since leaving school, and they said it wasnt good enough and he had to apply for jobs unrelated to his trade.

Also know someone whos benefits were stopped for doing to much voluntry work, seems a bit daft but your only allowed to do x amount of hours, unless they send you to do voluntry work you will get penalized.

why should i pay my tax to keep a bricklayer on the dole cause there is no bricklaying jobs ,he should lick stamps