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Coming to a socialist paradise near you
7 November 2014, 20:10, (This post was last modified: 7 November 2014, 20:28 by Steve.)
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RE: Coming to a socialist paradise near you
NR, you obviously confuse Socialism with Communism and Totalitarianism in the same way that others confuse Conservatism with Fascism and Racism.

In the same thread you profess support for UKIP, who have many socialist policies themselves.

Here's one you have already agreed with:

Quote:To each according to his contribution was a concept espoused by many members of the socialist and labor movement. Examples of this can be found from Ferdinand Lassalle's and Eugen Dühring's statements to Leon Trotsky's writings. However, it was Vladimir Lenin, inspired by Marx's writing on the subject in his Critique of the Gotha Programme, who claimed the principle to be a fundamental element of socialism within Marxist theory. The term means simply that each worker in a socialist society receives compensation and benefits according to the quantity and value of the labor that he or she contributed. This translates into workers of high productivity receiving more wages and benefits than workers of average productivity, and substantially more than workers of low productivity. An extension of this principle could also be made so that the more difficult one's job is—whether this difficulty is derived from greater training requirements, job intensity, safety hazards, etc.—the more one is rewarded for the labor contributed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_each_acc...ntribution

(7 November 2014, 20:10)Straight Shooter Wrote: Well steve i would say this.....after living and working in this two and a half party of choice environment or as i call it now total bollocks illusion, i think i have had my fill of them ALL ....Time for something else.....time for anything else ....its got to be 100% better than we have now, all it would take is someone telling us the truth no more no less and talking in speak even i could understand ....good news....bad news i do not care just tell me the truth, my brain will do the rest......but ...bullshit is no longer working ...for me at least.....i think you ...that,s you steve needs to sit in a dark room , and think things through clear your mind ...........and guess what..........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................yeah UKIP....i won,t give up on you pal ......i will stay by you thick n thin....you gotta friend in me and so on .....chillax man


SS, I'm quite relaxed already, thanks for your concern Big Grin One of the reasons I'm chilled is that I have, through running my own business for 19 years, bogged off to my smallholding in a beautiful area and just do things I find interesting. Don't confuse me with some sad, chip-on-my-shoulder loser who blames the world for his inadequacies, I've made a significant contribution and fully intend to live out my days without being a burden on the state. None of this means I don't know the difference between Socialism and Communism, or that I think either is a good idea.
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7 November 2014, 20:29,
#42
RE: Coming to a socialist paradise near you
Thanks for sharing Steve I have seen this and many similar article before, and I still know 100% socialism is evil when applied to humanity. I support UKs stance on getting out of the EU and at this time that is what is the most important thing for my family, especially as none of the big three parties have any intention of leaving that dreadful organisation. BUT UKIP is also against many aspects of renewable energy like wind and solar farms and that is what I build for a living. No p[arty or system is all things to all men.

I do not agree with the socialist doctrine you describe.

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7 November 2014, 21:14,
#43
RE: Coming to a socialist paradise near you
perhaps EVERYONE should try and run their own company or be self employed steve.....year three is the killer as you will know, make it compulsory even, most will crash n burn and loose everything, the favourite i have noticed over the past fifteen years is the pub trade....there they are pockets full of redundancy money ...yeah we can do that its piss easy, i can smile a lot , i can play pool, wifey is not a bad cook....six months later the smile is a forced smile wifey is sat on a stool by the bar eating liver and onions THEY don,t get it ...no understanding how things work .....its now Christmas ...in for the kill.....the smile has gone by now ...wifey is sinking vodka by the bar and hubby is joining in .....the look now is a nervous haggered look lets get the f..k out of here ....but the debts by now weigh heavy no where to turn.......gone........then the next sucker rides into town to do the same gig....with the same result ....truth is nothing is easy no matter what politics you may follow
To take a look back in times past, its easy to see future direction you need to be.
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7 November 2014, 21:54,
#44
RE: Coming to a socialist paradise near you
We're in Year 11 of our business now and yes the first few years are hard, but we were determined and made it work, now things are easier, but it still requires long hours.

Anyone who goes into business thinking it's like a paid holiday, as in your example, or who goes about it half cock is doomed to fail.
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7 November 2014, 21:58,
#45
RE: Coming to a socialist paradise near you
Amen dev
To take a look back in times past, its easy to see future direction you need to be.
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7 November 2014, 22:08,
#46
RE: Coming to a socialist paradise near you
With ya SS and Dev, I had to go self employed in the end for the energy companies BS PR " We have created local employment on the WF developments"

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8 November 2014, 13:18,
#47
RE: Coming to a socialist paradise near you
yes being in charge of your own destiny is gooooood it makes you pro,active .....empty stomachs are great for concentrating the mind, along with bad weather.....i am so bloody happy......look at this face ! got to tax the van now....bye
To take a look back in times past, its easy to see future direction you need to be.
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8 November 2014, 13:19,
#48
RE: Coming to a socialist paradise near you
Shit a hungry Welshman living in south wales, its Taffybal the Canibal

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8 November 2014, 13:22,
#49
RE: Coming to a socialist paradise near you
yeah i also love cianti ......or dot 4 brake fluid
To take a look back in times past, its easy to see future direction you need to be.
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