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london nuked - Sunna - 4 December 2014
isis to nuke London
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/574600/20141202/isis-nuclear-bomb-weapons-mass-destruction-london.org#.VIC2PGcqXIW
or more bs to get boots on the ground
RE: london nuked - Devonian - 4 December 2014
http://forum.survivaluk.net/showthread.php?tid=7395
RE: london nuked - Bucket - 4 December 2014
Sunna, you had my hopes up there for a second !
RE: london nuked - Barneyboy - 4 December 2014
well that would suck, the UK would stop
RE: london nuked - NorthernRaider - 4 December 2014
No it would not, all the food, water, energy, oil, gas, material goods, timber, fabrics, steels, minerals and everything essential for society is outside the M25. London does not make anything, it only takes the profits from the provinces.
When Rome eventually fell way back when it took up to 200 years for its fall to completely ripple out to the provinces like Britania, Iberia etc
RE: london nuked - Steve - 5 December 2014
(4 December 2014, 23:09)NorthernRaider Wrote: No it would not, all the food, water, energy, oil, gas, material goods, timber, fabrics, steels, minerals and everything essential for society is outside the M25. London does not make anything, it only takes the profits from the provinces.
When Rome eventually fell way back when it took up to 200 years for its fall to completely ripple out to the provinces like Britania, Iberia etc
Over 20% of money generated in London goes to subsidise the rest of the UK. London is keeping us afloat.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-2100345/Londons-taxes-prop-rest-UK-One-pound-earned-capital-funds-rest-country.html
RE: london nuked - NorthernRaider - 5 December 2014
No Steve that's a fallacy, What actually happens is most of the wealth creating jobs in manufacturing, farming, industry, fishing, tourism etc are spread right across the UK but the companies registered offices are located and registered in London, EG Royal Royce makes jet engines in Derby and cars some place else but their Head Office is in London where its returns are recorded thus the profit is shown to be made in London.
The much vaunted money markets of London they say creates the wealth of London is the banks taking in all the money fro the entire countries savings, current accounts, pension schemes etc where they lend it out to others.
London in fact has the greatest number of NON wealth crating jobs in the country as well.
"Across the UK the percentage of people employed in the public sector varies. Northern Ireland (27.6%) and Wales (25.2%) both had more than a quarter of their workforce employed in the public sector. Within England, the South East (16.2%) and East (16.3%) had the lowest percentage of their workforce employed in the public sector. However across the UK, London had the highest number of people employed in the public sector at 739,000 but it has a larger population than other areas of the UK."
London does have a fabulous selection of small scale manufacturing like clothing, fashion and design, media and marketing, research etc but NONE of them are essential to the survival of the country.
As I said above the rest of the country could survive very easily without London because London does not provide ANY of the ESSENTIALS in life we can easily live without CURRENCY or the "wealth" London creates ( but consumes) but the;
FOOD
WATER
FUEL
CLOTHING
BUILDING MATERIALS
AGREGATES
FISHERIES
CHEMICALS
VEHICLES (Land Sea and Air)
DEFENCE
MEDICAL SUPPLIES
ALL the essentials of survival are made far from London, so wipe out London and the rest will still keep going.
Now imagine if the rest of the UK woke up one day and decided it was no longer going to be held hostage to the London centric government, tax collectors and ruling elite we we stopped sending in commuters to run the services, stopped sending food, fuel, water , electricity etc, stopped taking out Londons sewage and rubbish, London would go down in an hour but the rest of the country would survive.
Its the Farmers, Fishermen, Power Station Workers, Water Workers, Weavers, Chemical Workers, Train/ car/ plane makers who keep the country alive and they are all far from London.
RE: london nuked - Barneyboy - 5 December 2014
NR if London fell mate ,and the money stopped we are done mate the UK would be bankrupt
RE: london nuked - NorthernRaider - 5 December 2014
Barney you don't need MONEY to survive you need food, water, heat and light, A lot of people have been brainwashed into thinking London CREATES the wealth it does not, people think the bankers create wealth they do not, bankers take in the deposits, savings, pension funds and money that people from across the whole country deposit into the banks, and the banks then lend it out again to others charging interest, then they cream of a chunk of that interest for themselves and that is what they claim is the wealth they create.
But the banks are utterly dependent on everyones current accounts, everyones pension companies savings, every shops daily takings, and the profits from the whole countries WEALTH creating sector which is mainly MANUFACTURING and most manufacturing, farming etc is done OUTSIDE London.
On top of that the London banks are totally hostile to the new small local banks, cooperatives, community trusts and local savings and loan schemes because if they succeed and grow like the original cooperative system did then their London centric influence will be reduced ( but not broken of course)
So if London goes tits up, theoretically I have say fuel in the form of stored petrol and diesel and kiln dried fire wood, and my Mrs has good medical skills. Lets say Barney has access to fresh fish and wild caught game and his wife has a garage full of preserves, pickles, jams and dried meats. Steve has rolls of cloth, cooking pans, cutlery, crockery, candles and his wife has a working foot operated sewing machine . We Barter if London goes tits up until an alternative springs up.
Why because all the regional and local banks will eventually reopen, Most banking data servers are outside London, Most Building societies have regional roots to monitary system will re-establish itself with local and regional groups.
FYI Barney my illustrious friend the UK IS bankrupt, an annual deficit of £97 Billion and a national debt of £1.4 trillion and RISING we are living on borrowed time.
RE: london nuked - Barneyboy - 5 December 2014
im not saying if London goes up ,then people will not survive ,im saying that life as we no it will not go on ,if the bankers and the lot cant get to the stock exchange yes then life as we no it will stop mate