The Grand Solar Minimum - A Mini Ice Age 2020-2055

[tadx]

(28 November 2018, 21:49)Straight Shooter Wrote: Buy yourselves a dehydrator ,some Mylar bags ,oxygen absorbers ,mason jars and a vacuum sealer , just these items will enable you to reduce BULk of fresh produce down to small ....and I do mean small manageable storage amounts enabling more food in a smaller storage area ....or ...even better you will have the ability to store ten times the amount ! Plus more food options of Fresh foods......but when things are plentiful and cheap , I was given cooking Apple's some weeks back Free I have frozen six kelo,s and dehydrate about eight kelo,s as MB posted a few weeks back his dehydrator runs 24/7 in the growing season (nothing he grows go,s to waste ) it's just plain common sense .

So the lesson here is a no brainer Dehydration is a must ! Plus you know what is going inside to begin with and you can control your stores better with (what you have at hand ) my advice is start there ,you will be surprised how good food can stack up along with what you can do with this bit of kit for around £150.00 you could be up running and assuring your future survival .....I did like MB s post on eggs ,not done that (all my trays are perforated ) but I will find a way though.

Cheers bro - will check that out!

[tadx]

(28 November 2018, 21:40)Pete Grey Wrote: Found this information, goes back to 1600, nothing new is going on, we have always had bad winters and snowfalls in spring are not unusual.

netweather.tv/weath.../winter/winter-history

Here's the link, the one you posted was broken:

https://www.netweather.tv/weather-foreca...er-history

I agree, but things are so different now. Everything is linked electrically. EMPs and CME's threaten everything.

The UK only supplies 50% of the food we eat, the rest is imported. What would happen if those imports stopped over night?? 77 million people to feed!

This doesn't fill me with hope or optimism buddy:

1648: Interestingly was very wet, and the summer was described as "worse than some of the past winters" ie. It was cool and wet!

1648-49: Thames froze over

1657-58: Beginning a period of long lying snow, lasting from December through until March!

We're preparing for hte worst case scenario of a CME/EMP or systemic crop failures.

[tadx]

(28 November 2018, 23:17)tadx Wrote:

(28 November 2018, 21:40)Pete Grey Wrote: Found this information, goes back to 1600, nothing new is going on, we have always had bad winters and snowfalls in spring are not unusual.

netweather.tv/weath.../winter/winter-history

Here's the link, the one you posted was broken:

https://www.netweather.tv/weather-foreca...er-history

I agree, but things are so different now. Everything is linked electrically. EMPs and CME's threaten everything.

The UK only supplies 50% of the food we eat, the rest is imported. What would happen if those imports stopped over night?? 77 million people to feed!

This doesn't fill me with hope or optimism buddy:

1648: Interestingly was very wet, and the summer was described as "worse than some of the past winters" ie. It was cool and wet!

1648-49: Thames froze over

1657-58: Beginning a period of long lying snow, lasting from December through until March!

We're preparing for hte worst case scenario of a CME/EMP or systemic crop failures.

FYI - the 1600s to the 1700s was known as the Maunder Minimum (part of the 400ish year cycle we found ourselves in now). According to Professor Zharkova, we're going to be having temperatures equivalent or below the 1600/1700s temps due to 4 out of phase magnetic fields. There were only 2 out of phase fields last time.

This is the problem, we don't actually know what the hell is going to happen. This is the ENTIRE point of being a prepper. Better to be safe than sorry.

[roddas]

(28 November 2018, 21:49)Straight Shooter Wrote: Buy yourselves a dehydrator ,some Mylar bags ,oxygen absorbers ,mason jars and a vacuum sealer , just these items will enable you to reduce BULk of fresh produce down to small ....and I do mean small manageable storage amounts enabling more food in a smaller storage area ....or ...even better you will have the ability to store ten times the amount ! Plus more food options of Fresh foods......but when things are plentiful and cheap , I was given cooking Apple's some weeks back Free I have frozen six kelo,s and dehydrate about eight kelo,s as MB posted a few weeks back his dehydrator runs 24/7 in the growing season (nothing he grows go,s to waste ) it's just plain common sense .

So the lesson here is a no brainer Dehydration is a must ! Plus you know what is going inside to begin with and you can control your stores better with (what you have at hand ) my advice is start there ,you will be surprised how good food can stack up along with what you can do with this bit of kit for around £150.00 you could be up running and assuring your future survival .....I did like MB s post on eggs ,not done that (all my trays are perforated ) but I will find a way though.

very good advice my dehydrator was the best thing i ever bought, great for making jerky to, i have the foodsaver vacuum sealer that does the jars as well also a very handy buy thats for sure

[roddas]

(28 November 2018, 23:00)tadx Wrote:

(28 November 2018, 19:25)roddas Wrote: well i will have have a little bit to do to be fully prepared for such an event, to start with i would need to find a way to continue to grow food as green houses would not be much use without some kind of extra heat source and the ground source heat that tadx mentioned would not work here without some serious machinery to dig down through rock so i will have to figure that one out for a start, i like MB stock lots of tinned food which i rotate constantly as well as pasta and rice, i also have a minimum 6 month supply of MREs in the stores on top of the other stores, i can already filter and purify enough water to last a life time and have 2 IBCs full in storage plus a 30 gallon stash in the house . for heat i have paraffin heaters and a good stock of paraffin, i also have a wood burner in the shed that could be moved to the house if needed.
So in a nutshell i will start to up the store of tinned food and everything else including the MREs and im gonna see what i can do about the heat for the greenhouses, night have to get a bit inventive on this one

I was looking into your greenhouse heating predicament and came across this:

https://www.permaculture.co.uk/articles/...and-manure

Compost keeps at a constant state of 40C if properly done. That in combination with a few of these:

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/HE...ywQAvD_BwE

A 200W solar panel could easily run two of those heaters with energy left over for night time.

It depends on how insulated the greenhouse is too. Maybe replace the panes with these:

https://www.pvccladding.com/products/mul...U4QAvD_BwE

Using water bottles to heat a greenhouse:

https://homeguides.sfgate.com/use-water-...81401.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spehA8I-3fI

Not sure how good that'd be, but I reckon it'll be a multi-method solution. It might help if you painted the bottles black too, as that absorbs heat.

I suppose it depends on how much ££ you have to burn on this project.

i already have a pretty large solar and wind power set up so i think ill probably just divert some of that power to some batteries in the greenhouse, seems to be the easiest way to go

[tadx]

(29 November 2018, 10:27)roddas Wrote:

(28 November 2018, 23:00)tadx Wrote:

(28 November 2018, 19:25)roddas Wrote: well i will have have a little bit to do to be fully prepared for such an event, to start with i would need to find a way to continue to grow food as green houses would not be much use without some kind of extra heat source and the ground source heat that tadx mentioned would not work here without some serious machinery to dig down through rock so i will have to figure that one out for a start, i like MB stock lots of tinned food which i rotate constantly as well as pasta and rice, i also have a minimum 6 month supply of MREs in the stores on top of the other stores, i can already filter and purify enough water to last a life time and have 2 IBCs full in storage plus a 30 gallon stash in the house . for heat i have paraffin heaters and a good stock of paraffin, i also have a wood burner in the shed that could be moved to the house if needed.
So in a nutshell i will start to up the store of tinned food and everything else including the MREs and im gonna see what i can do about the heat for the greenhouses, night have to get a bit inventive on this one

I was looking into your greenhouse heating predicament and came across this:

https://www.permaculture.co.uk/articles/...and-manure

Compost keeps at a constant state of 40C if properly done. That in combination with a few of these:

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/HE...ywQAvD_BwE

A 200W solar panel could easily run two of those heaters with energy left over for night time.

It depends on how insulated the greenhouse is too. Maybe replace the panes with these:

https://www.pvccladding.com/products/mul...U4QAvD_BwE

Using water bottles to heat a greenhouse:

https://homeguides.sfgate.com/use-water-...81401.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spehA8I-3fI

Not sure how good that'd be, but I reckon it'll be a multi-method solution. It might help if you painted the bottles black too, as that absorbs heat.

I suppose it depends on how much ££ you have to burn on this project.

i already have a pretty large solar and wind power set up so i think ill probably just divert some of that power to some batteries in the greenhouse, seems to be the easiest way to go

Global Electric Current Has Shifted: Piers Corbyn Astrophysicist (PART 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8YmB_0Eahw