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[Straight Shooter]

Every one is talking war ! All over the net and msm nobody is talking of peace or prevention of war ….Why ? Maybe we should ask our prime minister or our local MP ! ….they appear to know what’s best for us and the country .

[bigpaul]

Putin is a bully, its okay for him to get weapons from Iran and China but not Ukraine to get them from the West.

[Skean Dhude]

It's not the weapons. It is the personnel. We are supplying weapons and the people trained to use them. We are participating in the war as a proxy willing the fight to the last Ukrainian. Supplying weapons isn't the issue atm.

Now if we supply something that does make a difference we might find that Russia starts supplying others with the weapons and personnel to use against us.

We caused this war and we are using it to weaken Russia in the death throes of the West. Unfortunately for those in charge we have expanded it so now it is just not Russia but Iran and China. We can't take on them all. Their armies don't cry when they get their hair mussed in the mud.

[bigpaul]

Putin has lost 600,000 troops in this war, its so bad he has to conscript prisoners and pensioners, mothers are starting to openly oppose him because their sons are being used as cannon fodder.
all the Russian talk of war with Nato is BS and bluster to get the West to stop supplying and arming and training Ukraine, if we capitulate Putin has won,

[Sunna]

Push to hard and he will give war technology to our goverments enemies.

A boots on the ground war would not be well received in western countries, as long as...we're alright Jack ... it will just carry on .

[bigpaul]

he already has.

[bigpaul]

its not just Ukraine, the whole of Western Europe is at risk if Putin isnt stopped, it will end up like WW2 with Europe being ruled by a dictator and everyone suffering as a result.
all these WW3 threats by Putin and his TV dictators are a ruse to get Western govt's to stop backing Ukraine so Russia can roll over the country, but it wont stop there, the Baltic countries will be next followed by the whole of Europe.

[bigpaul]

personally I dont think it is obvious, its all BS and blustery on Putin's side, once a bully always a bully.

[Skean Dhude]

Well Paul, you know I disagree on this but I'm not going to rehash. Putin has won bar the wiping up and our leaders only have a few calls to make. They will make the wrong one as usual. Although it depends who takes over from Stalin....Sorry Two Tier.

[bigpaul]

then I have to disagree, Putin has NOT won not by a country mile, thats why we are hearing all the BS and bluster.