"Appalling" NHS care

[bigpaul]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20427439

[Skean Dhude]

Yawn. The only people that get looked after by the NHS now is those working there.

Everybody else gets bad treatment and if they live they are grateful for surviving their trip.

[Pagan-Mist]

Sack the pen pushers and bring back matrons

[Tigs]

bring back matrons ! they already have http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1259871.stm in 2001

[Pagan-Mist]

They may have said it but whether its been implemented is another matter the hospitals I've been in have no matrons normally ward managers with little or no medical training I can name 1 hospital where the ward managers are medically trained and that's the Queen Alexander in portsmouth where the wards are managed by sisters.

[BDG]

(23 November 2012, 14:13)Pagan-Mist Wrote: They may have said it but whether its been implemented is another matter the hospitals I've been in have no matrons normally ward managers with little or no medical training I can name 1 hospital where the ward managers are medically trained and that's the Queen Alexander in portsmouth where the wards are managed by sisters.

All ward managers will be RGN's, most will have a degree or be studying for one and they will be or can be referred to as a matron. They also normally have a teaching qualification. Matron is pretty much a generic term now for a nurse working at their grade with managerial responsibilities. Some specialist nurses / nurse practitioners at the same grade may also be referred to as matron.

If they are not at least a band 7 qualified nurse, they are not a ward manager, probably something like a bed occupancy officer, senior administrator or so on.

[Prepper1]

I split my big toe from front to back straight down the middle of the bone...
Did they pin it for me???
Nope all I got was a elastoplast to hold it together.
They told me I was lucky because if it had been any other toe it wouldnt have been treated.....

[NorthernRaider]

The NHS is a joke period, it should be privated and or scrapped its not fit for purpose.

[Barneyboy]

not all have the money to pay for there own care

[NorthernRaider]

(24 November 2012, 18:07)Barneyboy Wrote: not all have the money to pay for there own care

So? whats that got to do with anything? if someone wants a house or car or holiday etc they pay for it themselves, healthcare should be the same as should education.

Why should say BP pay taxes to fund scooling when he and many millions of others dont have kids, Why should I pay taxes to fund ring and ride for oldies when I have to walk if I cant afford a car, Why should I pay taxes for meals on wheels when I would go hungry if I cant afford food, Why should I pay for sports facilities that I dont use, why should I pay for libraries I never access, Why should my taxes subsidise council house rents when if I cant afford to pay my mortgage I lose my home.

I dont mind the humanitarian approach to having a good first rate trauma service because anyone can become ill or get injured, but no one should be expected to pay for anything after that unless its for themselves. My mate in Kansas has just become a grandad, his son gained a new baby and a bill for $14,000 for the hospital delivery, he doesnt complain because like most Americans he believes in being responsible for your actions and not living as a leach off others, So hen Crystal got prgnant he started saving and working overtime to pay for the babies delivery, That is right and proper. But you belong to the sick sub section that thinks people should never be responsible for themselves.