7 January 2013, 12:10
I tried to be normal once.... Worst two minutes of my life...
Euros discarded as impoverished Greeks resort to bartering
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7 January 2013, 12:16
Bartering is very difficult for many people who lack the patience or the nerve to try it. I think it's another one of those survivalist concepts that seems great now but when it comes to it will be daunting.
7 January 2013, 12:30
I get what you're saying CF. Having done sales as my main jobs, I love bartering, and will push people well and negotiate well. The problem with that, it allows bidding wars and the price people get for their products goes right down. Benefit to me, but not to the person I'm buying from. I'll also sell as high as possible, because that's what get's more profit. Really, unless people have the nerve to stand out a deal, bartering can be as ruthless, if not more ruthless, than the system we have now.
Why do some market stalls last many years, some become supermarkets, some get crushed by opposition selling the same products? Simple economics. It's the same system that we're in now. If you want something cheap, go to the supermarkets and purchase at the end of the day. Why doesn't everyone do that? Because as a nation/species, we're idiots. We shop at Tesco, Morrisons, and the alike. They don't have the best prices, but people pay extra because of the 'benefits' of buying from a supermarket. Well, that's totally BS!!! We do it because we're lazy and dumb, as a nation. It's cheaper to grow your own carrots, peas, potatoes, etc. But we prefer others to do the work for us. Does a barter market guarantee a better product at a better price? Only if you can shaft the person selling the item to you and get the best price from them! Bartering is ruthless and it's a skill in it's own.
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Those who sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither - Benjamin Franklin
7 January 2013, 12:33
(This post was last modified: 7 January 2013, 12:40 by Highlander.)
(7 January 2013, 12:16)cryingfreeman Wrote: Bartering is very difficult for many people who lack the patience or the nerve to try it. I think it's another one of those survivalist concepts that seems great now but when it comes to it will be daunting. I am sure that many people in Greece might well have thought the same before the situation went sour on them,... but hard time will always make people think in different ways Bartering is rife where I live, we barter a lot here, usualy we barter skills, I have lost count of the number of times I have done this, the last was when I did a persons lawn and in exchange I had that person feed my dogs when I had to go away,.... even today, I am fullfilling a barter, I am looking after someone house now while they are on holiday, in exchange for a tree they cut down in the summer [ for logs] As preppers its something that we all should be thinking about, remember to have one of those shelf for bartering goods The very same would happen with more important things like food,..if you want food, you dont have to offer food in return,... barting covers every aspect of what we need, so a loaf of bread could well be worth a bag of loags. The beauty of what these people in Greece have done is form what you might call bartering societies,..where you join the group or community, so that everyone is helping each other, this will take away any of the aggressiveness, or the bidding wars,.. they have clearly done this with helping people and the community in mind, and not out of an individual need to survive The very same would happen with more important things like food,..if you want food, you dont have to offer food in return,... barting covers every aspect of what we need, so a loaf of bread could well be worth a bag of loags. The beauty of what these people in Greece have done is form what you might call bartering societies,..where you join the group or community, so that everyone is helping each other, this will take away any of the aggressiveness, or the bidding wars,.. they have clearly done this with helping people and the community in mind, and not out of an individual need to survive
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7 January 2013, 12:44
7 January 2013, 15:12
What happens to the socially marginalized who've no social skills and nothing to trade?
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7 January 2013, 15:16
(7 January 2013, 15:12)ObongoPox Wrote: What happens to the socially marginalized who've no social skills and nothing to trade? Natural selection, I guess.
Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism - Thomas Jefferson
Those who sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither - Benjamin Franklin
7 January 2013, 15:18
(7 January 2013, 15:18)I-K-E Wrote:(7 January 2013, 15:16)Scythe13 Wrote:or unskilled labourer(7 January 2013, 15:12)ObongoPox Wrote: What happens to the socially marginalized who've no social skills and nothing to trade?Natural selection, I guess. Unskilled Labourer could make it by just by lending a hand. Mow my lawn and you'll get a bag of carrots, that kind of deal, means that people should be able to survive. You'd just start getting stuff like carrot, pea, and bean seeds and the alike, and that'll sort out most people's need to eat.
Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism - Thomas Jefferson
Those who sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither - Benjamin Franklin
7 January 2013, 15:54
They join Plod and become enforcers for the new local government.
Skean Dhude
------------------------------- It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change. - Charles Darwin |
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