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inflatable canoe / kayak
11 January 2012, 18:53,
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Question  inflatable canoe / kayak
Been looking at an inflatable canoe / kayak for a while now. Ive got one on my "I want that" list. Just wondered if anyone has any experience of these, good or bad.

Ive seen a foldable one that can take an outboard motor, but its a lot more money. No links as im on my phone!
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11 January 2012, 19:07,
#2
RE: inflatable canoe / kayak
From my archives

Inflatable Kayaks and similar craft

© 2011Northern Raider

A few preppers on various forums have chatted in general about using waterways for bugging out along and a few others have mentioned keeping a boat at home because they live in areas at risk from severe flooding.

Now it does not take a genius to realise that playing around on the water can be dangerous if not deadly for the unskilled and inexperienced people, and its out and out lethal if you normally take to the water if its surging in and inundating your street.
It could be pushing trees, cars, lumber, oil drums, and heaven knows what else under the surface just waiting to puncture your boat or tip you out.
There could be horrendous hidden currents just under the surface during the initial part of the deluge at least just waiting to tip you out of pull you under, so taking to the water during the initial stages of a flood is definitely not wise nor recommended unless the only other option remaining is drowning.

Most experienced boaters and water sports type agree that is most cases leaping into a boat during the initial part of a flood is suicidal and to be avoided at all costs if possible.
BUT using boats and kayaks as silent methods of bugging out along normal waterways like rivers, lakes and canals is very viable and often the best choice for some people, so at least it must be considered and debated by the prepper community.

Being terrified of water myself I think I will choose very deliberately to make the point of EVERYONE WEARS SUITABLE BOYANCY AIDS, properly selected and fitted, plus safety helmets in case you are tipped out.
You must put SAFETY absolutely first on this issue, flood water, rivers, canals, lakes and the sea does not give the foolish a second chance.
So bugging out by boat is and can be a very viable option for more than a few people and for most of us with finite storage space and limited funds I reckon inflatable kayaks with built in buoyancy chambers is worth looking at. I’ve posted a few links at the bottom of the page.

Escaping flood water.
OK so let us assume you have been caught out at home by a flood that has inundated your home which is located on a flood plain. (Over 60% of UK homes are built along ancient river courses and deltas, and plenty are located in the path of water from failed dams.)

A boat, kayak etc may be a prudent if risky investment if there is a likelihood that a flood could either totally cover your house ( bungalow dwellers beware) or the flow of the water could demolish your house both scenarios happened in both the UK and Holland during the winter storm in 1953/54. Hundreds of people drowned on the east coast of England and thousands drowned in Holland.

Victims not only drowned but some were crushed by debris, burnt by chemicals floating on the surface and died of hypothermia after being immersed in icy water for hours.

So using that as a historical warning and remembering that the UK govt has consistently failed to update many flood defences and failed to properly maintain even more we need to consider options for surviving a flood (You rather than me because if my house floods chances are you lot are already fish food, my house is 389 ft above sea level 12 miles from the coast. But taking in the lessons from Fukushima complacency is something I can not really afford).

If you think you are at risk consider getting a boat or inflatable of some sort plus life jackets / buoyancy aids plus doing a course on basic boat handling skills.

Should you be caught out and forced to take to the water a few people I have spoken to suggest that trying to navigate your way through debris laden swirling flood water will probably be the quickest way to kill yourself, they suggest donning your wet weather gear, plus buoyancy aids and helmet, (don’t forget your Bug Out Bags) Then getting into your boat if you absolutely must then try and tie up straight away in the lee of a solid tall object such as an office block, phone mast, etc, try not to be carried away by the flood water. By tying up in the lee of an object you reduce the risk (not entirely) of having a submerged tree of semi submerged piece of debris smashed your boat and possibly sinking it. Taking to the water MAY save your life but flood water in not your friend.

They also suggest that when and where possible you stay in a spot of calm water in the lee of a shelter for as long as possible because not only does debris laden sea / lake flood water rush in, but it also rushes back out carrying even more junk with it. (In the case of Tsunamis the surges can come and go many times over many long hours).

If and when things calm down and it appears to be safe enough to row or sail towards dry land or a big building above the water you must travel very carefully and slowly as you don’t want to puncture your hull or get tipped out by submerged objects from telegraph poles, street lights, trees, etc, slow but sure is the way to safety.

Getting boating lessons and taking regular practise is the best way of prepping, plus being familiar and skilled with your chosen craft is a must, you also need to know how to fix leaks and punctures and have the kit to do the repair with. You may need to find a safe method of cooking on your boat without burning a hole through it; you will need a good water filter like a Katadyn. You will need long quality mooring rope, waterproof flashlights etc. Speak to boating experts for advice not boat salesmen.

Boating to bug out of to reach safety is an option for those with the skills, but I suggest that it really needs to you develop EXPERT levels of skill and knowledge in boating.

All Caveats Apply.
http://shop.spindriftltd.com/seaeagle-1-c.asp
http://www.seaeagle.com/ExplorerKayaks.aspx
http://www.decathlon.co.uk/EN/kcc-36...FUEa4Qodw2LfFQ
http://www.grabner-sports.at/index.php?id=1502&L=2
http://www.inflatable-kayaks.co.uk/

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11 January 2012, 19:51,
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RE: inflatable canoe / kayak
They are as as expensive as proper kayaks. I would prefer a real kayak for that price. Remember that you can fish from a kayak.
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11 January 2012, 21:27,
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RE: inflatable canoe / kayak
(11 January 2012, 19:51)uks Wrote: They are as as expensive as proper kayaks. I would prefer a real kayak for that price. Remember that you can fish from a kayak.

Yeah - I'd rather have a proper one, but I have nowhere to keep it. If I want a boat of any kind I need to have an inflatable one - or move out this shit flat!
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11 January 2012, 21:38, (This post was last modified: 11 January 2012, 21:40 by Scythe13.)
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RE: inflatable canoe / kayak
I'm in the same situation as you are Binary Ninja (00111001)

It all comes down to storage as much as 'fit for purpose'. Hate to admit it, but I was looking into one of these when I lived back with my parents. Again, it was storage that caused me to consider inflatible.
Amazon has some really cheap ones. The reviews are the best way to check them out. But some of them are under £150 and seem really good.

You could always learn to fiberglass and once TSHTF you can coat the inflatible with the resin and material and convert it to a full kayak.
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11 January 2012, 23:33,
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RE: inflatable canoe / kayak
hi 00111001
i wouldn't get an inflate their crap well the ones i've tried
as for space i rent a barn on a farm cheap as chips at £180 per month keeps every thing i need and out the way of eye's and big as well to fix my motors in
to win the war, you must be willing to die
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12 January 2012, 09:56,
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RE: inflatable canoe / kayak
Ref Kayaks can you still get those folding up sectional versions, they are like lengths of timber that when folded out and the seats / cross bars are in place make a solid kayak, but when seats etc removed it folds down to large plank size??

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12 January 2012, 10:46,
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RE: inflatable canoe / kayak
(12 January 2012, 09:56)NorthernRaider Wrote: Ref Kayaks can you still get those folding up sectional versions, they are like lengths of timber that when folded out and the seats / cross bars are in place make a solid kayak, but when seats etc removed it folds down to large plank size??

There's this: http://www.intramore.co.uk/

I quite like that. There are some collapsible kayaks, ou build the frame then put the waterproof skin over it. Not sure how strong these are though?
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12 January 2012, 10:52,
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RE: inflatable canoe / kayak
Oh I like that, I like that a lot, that looks like the ones I used to read about but have been brought up to date with better design, materials and technology. Thats definately one for the werb footed preppers.

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12 January 2012, 10:58,
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Yeah, the portabote looks great. Upto 14 feet too.

I can't find any prices though - probably not a good sign!
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