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Excalibur crossbows
15 December 2018, 18:05,
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RE: Excalibur crossbows
CB a Mossberg is an American produced shotgun of modest cost and exceptional durability.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/inde.../Mossberg/

They come in a variety of forms and Talon has directed you to the Mossberg 500 series, which in the UK is limited to 2 shots in the magazine and 1 in the chamber.

In the U.S. we do not have the magazine capacity limitation unless one is hunting. If hunting we do have the same restriction of 2+1.

At one time the Mossberg in military trim (bayonet lug and barrel shroud) was the shotgun issued to U.S. troops for security details and limited combat and it holds the distinction of passing the military trials test, which includes 5000 rounds of military 12 gauge ammo (military 12 gauge is loaded to magnum levels), with only one stoppage per 1000 rounds for any reason and no parts breakage.

U.S. troops now use a Benelli of very specific design.
https://www.benelliusa.com/m4-tactical-shotgun

I believe the price difference between the 2 shotguns is about $1700 U.S., so we consider the Mossberg a viable alternative.

I own several of these beasts, one has been with me for 35 years of hard use without incident and a second has been carried in the field for the past 10 years. The third I just bought recently as part of my gun rescue program which I have declared my mission in life.

A second shotgun which might be of interest would be the Remington 870, which is also a pump shotgun of long production and excellent reputation.

They are tough as nails and the shotgun I choose as my personal favored EOTWAWKI shotgun. One trait I prefer with the 870 over the Mossberg is that the 870 is infinitely adjustable. With a simple screw driver one can swap all the parts from aftermarket suppliers and make an infinite variety of changes to customize the shotgun to any use.

As an example, I have 28" field barrel with interchangeable choke tubes and a standard buttstock. I also have 18' and 20" barrels and a folding stock when a shorter firearm is needed and I have a 24" rifled barrel, which is scoped, for the most accurate presentation of rifled slugs one could imagine. There are also magazine extensions which you folks are not allowed that boost my shot capacity up to 14 rounds. Yes it is heavy but the 14 round application I would consider a home defense tool and not intended to be carried all day in the field. All of these features can be changed from one to the other or may be kept in reserve to use one single receiver for all purposes.

Over here we register the frame rather than the individual barrels. The frame is what carries the serial number of the firearm no matter what its form in other areas.

I have also had good success with the Hatsan shotgun line, specifically the Escort series of pump shotguns. Over here they are cheaper than a single shot gun and have proven very durable. I have purchased several of the Hatsan shotguns and scattered them around the family for assorted uses.

I will not delve into the details of the HW80 since it is easily obtainable in the UK and has its own nearly 70 year reputation to study.

I have many thousands of rounds through my HW30 at this point and it is a superb rifle. I have used it both indoors and outdoors and find it equally accurate at 10m to 25m. By accurate I am speaking of 12-14mm 10 shot groups at 25m outdoors with temp and wind changes, with pellets it likes. I do find mine sensitive to pellet choice but that is not really an issue with air rifle ammo since low cost allows one to find an ammo the rifle likes and stockpile it.

I would agree with Talon on the choice of a .22 in the "pot gun" category. The sub 12lb .22 might not be more powerful on paper, but in reality it anchors game much better due to the presentation of the pellet. A .177 pellet at the top of the power range will sometimes over penetrate while the .22 pellet dumps all of its energy inside the game animal.
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Excalibur crossbows - by Chief Broom - 13 December 2018, 12:55
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Talon - 14 December 2018, 06:29
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Chief Broom - 14 December 2018, 09:53
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Mortblanc - 14 December 2018, 13:52
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Chief Broom - 14 December 2018, 14:50
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Talon - 14 December 2018, 17:11
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Chief Broom - 14 December 2018, 22:09
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Mortblanc - 15 December 2018, 18:05
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Chief Broom - 15 December 2018, 20:06
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Pete Grey - 15 December 2018, 22:27
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Mortblanc - 16 December 2018, 11:03
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Pete Grey - 17 December 2018, 00:11
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by LAC - 16 December 2018, 03:31
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Chief Broom - 16 December 2018, 10:26
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Steve - 16 December 2018, 19:30
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Talon - 17 December 2018, 06:33
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Mortblanc - 17 December 2018, 09:13
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Pete Grey - 18 December 2018, 00:18
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Talon - 17 December 2018, 10:03
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Midnitemo - 18 December 2018, 14:07
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Midnitemo - 18 December 2018, 14:22
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Mortblanc - 18 December 2018, 21:44
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Midnitemo - 19 December 2018, 04:11
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Mortblanc - 19 December 2018, 08:25
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Chief Broom - 19 December 2018, 12:56
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Mortblanc - 19 December 2018, 18:24
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Chief Broom - 19 December 2018, 19:40
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Mortblanc - 19 December 2018, 21:35
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Talon - 19 December 2018, 21:56
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Chief Broom - 19 December 2018, 22:53
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by LAC - 20 December 2018, 01:49
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Mortblanc - 20 December 2018, 18:47
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by CharlesHarris - 20 December 2018, 19:30
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by LAC - 20 December 2018, 22:49
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Mortblanc - 21 December 2018, 16:28
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by LAC - 21 December 2018, 23:45
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Talon - 22 December 2018, 13:28
RE: Excalibur crossbows - by Mortblanc - 22 December 2018, 18:43

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