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The Chinese Motorcycle
7 December 2019, 20:18,
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The Chinese Motorcycle
Back in the 1970s Honda came out with a nice new overhead cam small bore engine and released it onto the world. It did very well and has been improved and expanded through the decades.

It did well in the civilized western world, not so much in the third world nations. It seems the people in those areas were more interested in putting food on the table than changing oil every 1000K and the short and intense service intervals, along with the high price of the new motorcycles was not so appealing to them. Honda small bore engines began blowing up at a rapid rate and the consumers turned to other makes and models.

Honda did a study very quickly and decided they needed a special machine for these emerging nations where the mechanics were not factory trained, oil was what and where you could find it and fuel had to be strained through burlap as it went into the tank.

What they came up with was the Honda CG. You still have it in GB, but sadly it has not been available in the U.S. Its description makes it an ideal "bug out bike" or general use machine for a hard times scenerio.

To get anything that resembles the CG we in the U.S. must resort to drastic means. We must do research and find out what is available that will substitute for this wondrous engineering feat. And if you look closely you can soon find the very same machine, even made by the same firms that produced it for Honda,,,,in China.

A year ago I went on the quest to find a good bike for bumming about the countryside here in the rural areas of Kentucky, which resembles the area of Wales around the Black Mountains, from what I can see from motor volgs, backpacking videos and car camping serials on the internet. Narrow winding roads, mixed deciduous forest, dry stone fences, cows and sheep. Well not so many sheep, just an occasional goat.

I bought a Royal Enfield Himalayan, and I have been very pleased with it. My only problem is that it is a big heavy machine. Not as big as some but at 200Kilos it is a b!%&h to pick up if it falls over and it has the tendency to do that without provocation, ignoring the presence of its sidestand and heading for the ground while in parked position with great regularity. Oddly, I have never dropped the bike while it was moving, but when it stops it likes to lie down for a nap.

While deciding on the RE I did study the presence of the multitude of chinese bikes on the market and brushed them aside. I wanted a "real bike", not a toy that would fall apart as it rolled down the road on its first use.

But as I studied I realized that these Chinese copies of the Honda were improving to some extent. There are whole forums of "china riders" and many import firms are now bringing these bikes to market in various forms. And they are cheap!!!

One form is the copy of the Honda CRF 250. Some of the older riders will remember that this bike began as a 230cc, and that 230cc motor was produced in China for many years. It still is.

So I saved my pennies, we still have pennies over here, for several months and made the purchase of a Chinese copy of a Honda CRF250 which came to me by way of a long distance shipping company packed in a crate and set on the ground at my door by a freight lorry driver.

Yes folks, I bought a Chinese motorcycle that came in a box! not only did it come in a box, it arrived in the middle of the first snow storm of the winter.

I covered the box with a tarp and waited out the weather, looking out the window occasionally to insure that no one came along and ran away with my boxed, disassembled, machine.

About four days latter we had a day that reached the low 20 temps ad it stopped raining for a bit so I ran out to the front porch and tore open the box, revealing a mass of plastic and metal all covered with thin protective film. I tore it open like a kid at Christmas and went to work.

What I had was a copy of the Honda CRF with an enlarged CG 125 engine blown out to 230cc and offering a proposed 15hp and about 20FT/LB torque. 5 speed gearbox and exceptionally low gear ratio on the front and rear sprockets. Anything that did not have to be made from metal was made from plastic and it was all white plastic painted a hideous "zombie green" that was apparently intended to remind one of something made by Kawasaki.

This was like assembling furniture from IKEA, except you sit on it and it goes faster. I installed the front forks, then the handle bars, got the front wheel in place, then went over every bolt in the machine with spanner, torque wrench and thread locker adhesive.

I changed the fluids too. It told me right there in the owners' manual that I needed to put fresh oil in before I ever fired the machine up, along with fork oil and heavy grease on the swing arms and steering head.

One of the things I discovered when changing the oil was that there is no oil filter, just a screen to catch the big stuff. When Honda redesigned this engine they left the filter off since no one in the backwaters of Indonesia had access to a filter or the money to buy one. In fact, they were using used motor oil from the bosses truck to top up their fluids. So this thing does not use expensive or specialized lubes, just 10w40.

My scooter with the GY6 engine is made the same way. No filter, just change the oil every 1500K, it says 975 mils, which happens to be a quart. So if you can come up with a quart of oil every 1000 miles you are good to go with the scooter. The 230cc bike takes 1.1L or 1 1/2 quarts.

I have not checked the mileage yet, but anticipate 60-100 mpg. My RE gets 50.

This bike was designed by Honda to survive what we would consider to be an Apocalypse. Every prepper should own one!

I even checked the spokes for tension, not trusting the Chinese with my personal welfare, I think some of those guys used to shoot at me long ago and far away. But then the Japanese once did the same thing to our fathers, along with the Germans and we now buy Japanese bikes at alarming rate and the BMW sets the standard for European touring bikes, even though they have a 40% failure rate in the first year of use. Yep, warranty services reveals that 40% of the BMW cycles are into the shop for a major repair in their first year. My neighbor up the road has had his GS310 in the shop for the past two months waiting for a new brake system to be furnished on recall. He took it in for the work and they kept it, will not give it back until repaired and the factory can not provide the parts yet.

I did all of that, and at my slow 70 year old pace it took two days. A youngster of 50 could probably do it in 3 hours.

Last thing, I installed the battery and dumped in a gallon of fuel. I set the choke, pushed the starter button and to my complete and utter amazement the bike motor turned over a couple of times and roared to life!

!!! IT RAN !!!

Did I ride it? No, not that day.

I hooked the utility trainer to the Jeep and rolled the device onto that wheeled platform and drove it down to the Motor Vehicle Department where the local Sheriff checked the vin number, looked at the odometer, wrote some things on a paper and sent me upstairs with the comment of "good luck".

The clerks at the MVD looked at my "certificate of origin", said "what is that?" and I told them about getting my motorbike in a box, which was why the mileage was zero!

They immediately said "From where?", and I told them the story of Honda's plight in the third world and the evolution of my bike and the history of the Chinese ripping off patents and their eyes sort of glazed over and they told me they would see what they could do about getting a title, since few in Kentucky could find China on a map. Fortunately the sheriff saying it had all its blinkers and two tires and fenders allowed me to get the vehicle registered and tagged, which was all I was really worried about.

No, resale or resale value, or even a transferable title is not an issue with this machine. I bought a disposable bike! I paid your equal to 1000 pounds for this machine and if I use it for a couple of years, it falls apart, and I put the motor on a go-cart I will consider it a success. Likewise, if the engine fails and I steal one off a lawn mower to propel the device I will consider it a success.

With new license plates, insurance papers and approval from TPTB in hand I went home, unloaded the bike from the trailer and rode it about up and down the lane. After all that excitement at the MVD I needed a nap, so I parked it and went inside.

Three days latter the temp shot back up to 20 something from the lows around freezing we had endured and I got bundled up and took a proper shakedown ride. Down to the village for petrol to the full mark and off we went.

Up the hill, down the hill, around the curves and across the horizon I rode the little bike, constantly waiting for the front wheel to fall off, the chain to turn to whirling shrapnel, or the motor to seize up and send me flying over the handle bars.

Oddly, nothing happened, nothing bad anyway. I put 20 on the odometer and drove home a happy pappy.

The next day I rode some more and as I got used to the bike I have discovered some things that have surprised me.

First, the quality of the engine and running gear is surprisingly good. The "Zongjen" factory made motors for both Honda and Yamaha and they seem to know what they are about. Their engines are also replaceable here in the states, I can buy a new on for $500 U.S., which is almost half the price of the bike.

The bike rides and drives well. Not as solid and steady as my RE, but good enough for running about on the back roads where it belongs. It's not a race bike, not a sport bike and not a touring bike. It's a bike to run to the store, run down to the lake for a bit of fishing, or just putting about on a nice day.

It has some serious low end use. This thing will creep like crazy! You can put it in first and it barely moves and refuses to stall out until at dead stop. My RE will not do that. If you want to win the "slow race" this is the bike for you.

I do need to pay some serious attention t the carburetor. It needs to have the proper jets installed for my climate. That is a job usually done by the dealer when they unpack the bikes, but I skipped that part. The only thing they were worried about when they shipped this thing was that it would pass the import tests "as is", start and run. I am limited on my top speed by a motor that is so lean it thinks the choke is on eternally. They jet them lean to insure they pass the U.S. and EU pollution rules. I have already ordered a set of new jets, available from Ebay for $4.

I also noticed that the odometer was spinning at an alarming rate, until I realized it was reading in kilometers rather than miles! The speed is marked in MPH but the distance is recorded in kilometers. I need to check the accuracy of the spedo also, they are always off by a good bit. Thank God for GPS and satnav.

One other thing I discovered is that this bike can be picked up from a "fell down" situation by an old man! No, I did not drop the bike, I just had to wrestle it around a bit while assembling it and noticed that it weighed 100 kilos as compared to the RE which weighs 200 kilos, or close to it.

Yes, the RE is more solid, looks better, runs better, rides better, and I leave it in the car park wondering how embarrassed I will be to beg for help standing it back up if it falls over. The RE will still go on the long trips, carry the camping gear and do a lot of the fun stuff, but this little Chinese bike is one I am looking forward to wearing out.

Now, where does this bike live? It lives on the patio, under a cover, waiting for immediate use. It is not in the shed with the RE and scooter, stabilizer in the gas, battery removed and stored, waiting for spring to return with sunshine and warmth. It sits there on the concrete slab, waiting for a day in the high teens or low twenties in mid December, with no rain, so I can jump on it and run to the village for a burger.

https://www.txpowersports.com/Taotao_TBR...r7-250.htm
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The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 7 December 2019, 20:18
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Straight Shooter - 7 December 2019, 20:55
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 9 December 2019, 16:59
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Tartar Horde - 10 December 2019, 11:23
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 11 December 2019, 16:39
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Midnitemo - 12 December 2019, 16:35
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 29 December 2019, 16:45
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Tartar Horde - 31 December 2019, 12:20
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Straight Shooter - 2 January 2020, 22:25
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 4 January 2020, 00:10
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Skean Dhude - 5 January 2020, 13:14
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 10 January 2020, 01:02
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 17 January 2020, 14:45
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Straight Shooter - 18 January 2020, 16:48
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 18 January 2020, 22:51
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 8 April 2020, 20:28
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Pete Grey - 8 April 2020, 23:55
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 9 April 2020, 22:49
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 23 April 2020, 20:03
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Skean Dhude - 25 April 2020, 15:49
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by CharlesHarris - 25 April 2020, 20:35
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 3 May 2020, 00:42
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 15 July 2020, 14:38
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Skean Dhude - 16 July 2020, 09:14
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 16 July 2020, 19:54
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Pete Grey - 17 July 2020, 21:08
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Skean Dhude - 16 July 2020, 21:40
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 18 July 2020, 21:51
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Pete Grey - 18 July 2020, 23:27
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Straight Shooter - 19 July 2020, 21:06
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 17 September 2020, 22:30
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 9 April 2021, 19:27
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Midnitemo - 11 April 2021, 08:00
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Straight Shooter - 11 April 2021, 17:55
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 12 April 2021, 17:48
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by bigpaul - 13 April 2021, 11:04
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Midnitemo - 16 April 2021, 13:42
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by bigpaul - 17 April 2021, 10:03
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Midnitemo - 17 April 2021, 11:27
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by bigpaul - 17 April 2021, 12:59
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Midnitemo - 17 April 2021, 14:39
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 17 April 2021, 18:56
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 17 April 2021, 19:40
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by bigpaul - 18 April 2021, 08:12
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Midnitemo - 18 April 2021, 11:43
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by bigpaul - 18 April 2021, 12:59
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Straight Shooter - 18 April 2021, 14:41
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Mortblanc - 3 August 2021, 18:30
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by Midnitemo - 5 August 2021, 15:39
RE: The Chinese Motorcycle - by bigpaul - 5 August 2021, 16:56

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