(16 July 2023, 23:50)Pete Grey Wrote: (16 July 2023, 08:50)Sekwo Wrote: (15 July 2023, 15:15)bigpaul Wrote: just because people live the modern life dosent mean its the right way to live, its just what we are used to.
I have never seen anyone who has a "simple lifestyle" who isn't in many ways reliant on the modern world.
I look at these programs of people living in Alaska ... they all have iron pots and guns and knife ... and most have petrol driving vehicles or boats. They wear clothes from manufactured materials, even if they make their own, they use manufactured needles and threads.
Sekwo I do not understand your definition of “modern”.
Iron pots and knives ?, woven clothing ?, 3000 year old “technology”.
I think most here would not even call the Victorian era modern with all of their innovation.
In the 1950s my grandmothers house had no electricity and was lit by gas, the “wireless” was powered by an “accumulator” which was recharged at the local hardware shop.
In our street we had electricity, coal fire of course, we had the only house with a car, no fridge or washing machine, not even running water, no bathroom, there was only one house in the street with a television, 9in b/w.
A party yard with a shared wash-house, no lighting, laundry done in a copper boiler heated by firewood, the only tap in the yard, an outside toilet.
“Modern” is the 1970s on. Modern is every house with electricity, a bathroom, central heating, double glazing etc.
I'm using "modern", in place of a "highly integrated society". In other words, a society which is reliant on goods and services from outside the people we meet day to day. Basically, that is anything produced by manufacturing ... most of which now happens in China, so clearly none of that is available when the SHTF. It's also any "services" like electricity, internet, water and gas.
Also, there is no iron smelting in the UK, and most of the usable reserves of iron and coal have gone. Likewise, copper, tin, etc. Plastics are also out. So, there will be no new metals produced in the UK and with our economy totally destroyed, rapidly anything produced by metal will disappear, because we'll have nothing of value to trade for other people's metal.
Likewise, with the economy shot and even if any part of the energy infrastructure is still working, we won't be able to afford to buy the energy from abroad, everyone left in the UK will turn to wood for heating and cooking. But, that will just mean we will rapidly cut down every tree, as occurred in the 18th century, and even if just 10million survive in the UK, soon fire wood will be in short supply (particularly as huge areas of woodland would likely go up in smoke during the nuclear exchange).
So, basically the modern world, whilst still available to a few, will be largely inaccessible to most of those remaining alive in the UK.
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